Thanks for the response. The number was difficult to read but I saw enough to know I don't have the number. Expensive mistake on my part.
Thanks for the response. The number was difficult to read but I saw enough to know I don't have the number. Expensive mistake on my part.
silly question but is the FOB ID inside the fob somewhere as well ??
Has anyone taken one apart?
All C-14's are sold with two fobs. If a dealer says otherwise, that dealer is mistaken and they have (or had) the other fob somewhere. If one buys a C-14 used, with only one fob, the first thing to do is to buy another fob and get the bike coded to recognize it.
Isnt it only the 08/09s that had two active fobs from the factory?
The 10 onwards have one active and one passive only don't they ?
(and the Passive ones can be cloned without need for a FOB ID number)
Yes, two RF fobs on the Gen.1 bikes, then one RF and one RFID on the Gen. 2 bikes.
As an aside, there are actually two independent parts to KiPass, the KiPass ECU, under the saddle, is the main, base unit. The other section is the RFID system located in the ignition switch housing; they are separate, do not interact and either can authenticate the main ECU and allow the bike to be started.
As to the cloning, I remember something about that but honestly, cannot recall the details. I <believe> it is not MISTY and may well use a simpler system. ?? Sorry but this is at the fringes of my knowledge of KiPass. Besides, as the original Kawasaki KiPass passive fob is something like $35, there is little point although a cloned fob would not require the bike be programmed, so that would be less expensive of course. Plus the ign. housing unit uses a one- write system with six slots; once they are used, they cannot be replaced so a clone would have the advantage of not using another slot. Although in actual practice, this does not seem to be a problem :-) .
Brian
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Yeah, if that works, I would assume it is less expensive than buying one from Kawasaki and then having the bike programmed to read it.
It should also be possible to clone the RFID portion of an RF fob also.
Not really a fan of using a passive fob myself but they can be almost invaluable as the last fob available because they can be used to code new fobs to the bike, including RF fobs.
Brian
Whilst we're talking keys and things I just recently ordered a spare key (so I could clip it to my jacket) by submitting a photograph.
The guys I used in the UK (Im sure you guys have similar services) were
https://keysinthepost.com/
News to me- what a slick idea!
Brian
Whilst we're talking keys and things I just recently ordered a spare key (so I could clip it to my jacket) by submitting a photograph.
The guys I used in the UK (Im sure you guys have similar services) were
https://keysinthepost.com/
and a very good reason not to leave keys(house/bike/car) visible in pictures posted publically
Whilst we're talking keys and things I just recently ordered a spare key (so I could clip it to my jacket) by submitting a photograph.
The guys I used in the UK (Im sure you guys have similar services) were
https://keysinthepost.com/
Scary stuff, borrow someone's key for a moment, take a photo of it with your phone, bam. Of course, that type of thing (tracing, photos, putty) is one reason RFID security was added to keys in the first place
Never heard of it. Might exist in the big city. Keep in mind we here in the colonies barely pass as civilized society.
It applies equally to house keys (which dont have RFCID) .
Was watching YT video recently where they were duplicating house keys using a CAD program to map the key to a Printing program and a 3D printer although you could equally just use a dremel and a blank, which are easily available
Apparently there are (in the US although no reason why the UK is any different ) over 90% of homes have keys from 2 manufacturers
NB they even managed to make working keys by taking pictures of keys on coffee shop tables using a zoom camera from an window over the street