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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: F-106 on November 12, 2011, 07:36:06 PM

Title: Cleaning question
Post by: F-106 on November 12, 2011, 07:36:06 PM
What are you guys using to clean and keep the black inner fairing staying black. My 06 is still looking good and want to keep it that way.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: Leo on November 12, 2011, 08:02:31 PM
The 4 years I was in the wonderful  Texas sunshine really started turning the old bike gray.  I got a product from the auto parts store called  "Back to Black"  I think it was from Mequires or turtle wax.   It took several liberal applications before it returned the inners and back fender to black.  I touch it up about twice a year.  Everything is ok so far.  Good Luck
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: Pfloydgad on November 13, 2011, 06:41:48 AM
Waterbed Vinyl Conditioner and Cleaner.
Not a petroleum based conditioner like Armor All, it won't cake or leave a residue, or dry out. Think about it, you don't want a waterbed mattress drying out do ya ? I've used it for yrs. and my local Wally World sells it.
My $.02 cents.
Ride safe all, and please, ATGATT.
Greg
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: westkyguy on November 13, 2011, 07:52:07 AM
Pledge or S100 or DOT 5.1 according to some folks
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: T Cro ® on November 13, 2011, 01:04:17 PM
Pledge or S100 or DOT 5.1 according to some folks

I don't know about DOT 5.1 Brake Fluid but I know that DOT 5.0 is made with Silicone Oil and that it will not harm plastics and very few rubber based products and that it does indeed rejuvenate faded plastic. After bleeding my brakes I always wipe down the black painted and plastic with my used rag; still looking like new but my bike is treated like a Garage Queen while I'm gone 240 out of 360 days per year.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: Steve in Sunny Fla on November 13, 2011, 01:48:25 PM
pledge works wonders. Steve
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: T Cro ® on November 13, 2011, 03:10:42 PM
pledge works wonders. Steve

 :thumbs:  :hail:  :goodpost:
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: gtr1000inFL on November 13, 2011, 06:37:40 PM
I had a faded 1993 C10, nothing fixed it, too far gone, tried the above remedies to no avail.  Sold it, new owner painted them including the saddle bags and it looks nice again.  I got a clean 2005 bike, and keep it in the garage.  Restoring fade is not realistic, but as you said, you want to maintain what you have.  Pledge was recommended locally from a C14 owner, but I just feel better leaving furniture polish in the house, and get a product intended for the bike, anti static feature cuts down on attracting dust and dirt, has UV protection written all over the can, and it does amazing on my brake dust and chrome mufflers too.  It's called ORIGINAL SPIRITS in a pink and black can, bike spirits on the second line.  $6 a can.  I use it on the car too, bug removal is easier to remove when used regularly.   
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: F-106 on November 13, 2011, 07:02:27 PM
Thanks guys for all your input. I have been using Protectall since I got the connie. Used it on my Goldwing and it did the job. However I thought I would ask to see what other were using. Those inner fairing panels are not cheap to replace and like the bags they do fade over time. Again, thanks for all your replies!
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: ATC Buckeye on November 13, 2011, 08:11:08 PM
I clean both my bikes with pledge from top to bottom. 
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: bbroj on November 14, 2011, 01:42:12 PM
I'm experimenting, not on the bike yet, with a floor polish. Yup, a commercial vinyl floor polish. My wife found it on an RV forum as an alternative to waxing the entire rig. It takes several coats on a smooth surface (ie fiberglass RV) to get it to not look streaked, but I have used it on plastic air intakes and such under the hood of the car and it glosses things right up! It has the look and consistancy of Armour All, but leaves a hard glaze behind. It can be washed and reapplied as needed. On textured surfaces, a coat or two does the trick. Not sure I would use this on non faded, good looking plastics just yet, but it may turn out to be the way to keep the plastics that way. I'm considering trying it on my rear fender, there were some stickers there that were removed with solvent, leaving dull grey areas behind. It's called Red Max Pro, available at Lowes (maybe it was Home Depot) in 1 gallon bottles. We did the RV about 6 times and still have nearly 1/2 of it left, and I did the fiberglass roof of the RV too! RV forum posters are claiming an annual touch up is all that's needed. Some of them with class C rigs (van front end), did the cab area as well. All other waxes/finishes need to be removed first, but washing with Dawn dishwashing detergent handles that.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: bigpigtx on November 16, 2011, 05:32:03 AM
+1 on Pledge!
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: Daytona_Mike on November 16, 2011, 07:20:03 PM
I like the folks who spiffy up their engine compartment with Armour All and then wonder why the check engine light comes on.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: bbroj on November 16, 2011, 07:27:35 PM
Not the case, if you're refering to me. I do wash my engine bay regularly on all of my vehicles, and have used various products including Armour All to brighten things up. Knowing my way around the engine compartment, however, I have never caused a check engine light by doing so.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: txfatboy on November 16, 2011, 11:16:46 PM
As far as "cleaning" goes, I use a spray can "mag wheel cleaner" that is safe for ALL finishes including painted wheels. I use this to clean everything except the plastics. It removes the road grime very well and rinses away and to date has not harmed/discolored/faded any finish on the bike. The body work gets a normal car/bike wash (not dishwashing soap) and a spray detailer. I also use WD40 if I want it to look real pretty....
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: GeeBeav on November 17, 2011, 12:38:53 AM
I like the folks who spiffy up their engine compartment with Armour All and then wonder why the check engine light comes on.

Do tell.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: T Cro ® on November 17, 2011, 04:49:48 AM
Do tell.
Yes please.... The bike is designed to be rode in the rain so how does cleaning the engine with a spritz or two of cleaner such as AA, Pledge, or WD become the cause of an electrical anomaly? My hi beam indacator is out should I stop cleaning the headlight? :)
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: westkyguy on November 17, 2011, 06:50:03 AM
I don't know about DOT 5.1 Brake Fluid but I know that DOT 5.0 is made with Silicone Oil and that it will not harm plastics and very few rubber based products and that it does indeed rejuvenate faded plastic. After bleeding my brakes I always wipe down the black painted and plastic with my used rag; still looking like new but my bike is treated like a Garage Queen while I'm gone 240 out of 360 days per year.


 Sorry, you are right, it is 5.0 instead of 5.1. I don't use brake fluid, nothing but Pledge and S100 since Honda Polish was taken off the market and reformulated. I had read some people use it, hence the caveat "according to some". S100 is really good but so expensive I rarely buy it anymore, Pledge is 4 bucks a can at the local Dollar General.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: Mettler1 on November 17, 2011, 07:18:05 AM
. The body work gets anormal car/bike wash   (not dishwashing soap) and a spray detailer. 

    WHAT??   Are you suppose to wash'em? :o
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: Uglydog56 on November 17, 2011, 01:30:19 PM
I wash the bike with an eagle one car wash stuff, because someone gave me a gallon for Christmas some years ago, plus I like the smell.  I wax the tank with zymol and everything else gets pledged regularly.  Okay, semi-regularly.  Okay, the windshield and mirrors get pledged sporadically.
Title: Re: Cleaning question
Post by: AZBiker on November 18, 2011, 02:44:13 AM
To clarify, somewhat off-topic:

DOT 5.0 is sillycone based.  It is fine on paint.  Stock fluid for many H-Ds.  Expensive compared to DOT 3&4.  Incompatible with 3, 4 & 5.1.  It does not absorb water either.  The water will eventually make its way into the bottom of the system if allowed to accumulate long enough.  Switching to DOT 5 is fine, just flush the system REAL good.  If I ever switched I would go ahead and rebuild my master cylinder and calipers, drain all the lines, and take everything apart to ensure no trace of the old stuff remained.  YMMV.  Allegedly, 5 doesn't have the same "feel" but I ran a stainless brakeline on my XLH and my brakes were plenty firm.  I'm sure TCro's brakes are fine too.

For those that want to stick with a DOT 3/4 compatible formula, there is DOT 5.1.  Higher BP than 3 & 4.  Relatively hard to find and also expensive.  Like 3 & 4, 5.1 absorbs water.  Not a big deal if you maintain your system properly.

You want a higher BP for your fluid?  Break out the wallet.