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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: buzz on October 11, 2011, 07:52:38 PM

Title: tire pressure
Post by: buzz on October 11, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
My just rebuilt 2000 is running fine, got a 200m ride done on Saturday. Was able to enjoy the bike for first long ride.
One thing I did notice is this bike seems to wander quite a bit at hwy speeds, 65+mph. I understand the Connie has a bigger profile and would be subject to cross winds more than my old , heavy V-twin. Bike has Dunlop StreetMAx tires front and rear, both with lots of tread. They are rated for max 42 psi. I was running 34 in the front and 38 in the rear. Any chance the pressures need adjusting, up or down? Open to any other suggestions to get the connie more firmly planted on the road.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: Summit670 on October 11, 2011, 08:05:06 PM
The manual for my 1987 says 42 rear and 36 front so I'd check your manual psi and try that first.

Many people recommend 40 in front to reduce cupping on some tires.   

Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: snarf on October 12, 2011, 06:32:27 AM
The manual for my 1987 says 42 rear and 36 front so I'd check your manual psi and try that first.

Many people recommend 40 in front to reduce cupping on some tires.
Yup I have pretty much ran 40 front and 42 rear in every tire that i have put on the ol girl
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: Daytona_Mike on October 12, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
Same here. Many of us run 40 front and 42 rear.
Of course what you dont know is that you want a fork brace,   stiffer front springs and  cartridge emulators and a C14 rear shock.
You will really  like how well planted it will feel  both on the corners and in turbulent winds
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: kzz1king on October 12, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
It seems like some think the brace is helpful and others don't. I was/am thinking of one. I currently have stock springs but the bike came with some progressives. Hmmmm, springs and emulaters first or a brace?
Wayne
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: RFH87_Connie on October 12, 2011, 02:37:14 PM
It sounds like the low tire pressure (mainly the front) is your primary issue, but ....

You could always cut 4-5 inches of the soft (tighter coiled) section of the stock springs and add an equal length spacer back to stiffen up the front end.  Drain and replace the fork fluid with 15w or 10w.  Most use 15w.  I did it to mine and it made a big difference in firmness and tracking.  No more meandering.  The stock springs give a nice older Cadillac style ride (floats along), not a nice and tight sport ride which sounds like what you are after.

You may also want to check the steering bearing for tightness and the swing arm pivot bolt for correct torque.  The foot scoops can also mess with you at higher speeds near other vehicles.  That large fairing can easily be pushed by a side wind also - especially if the bike is unstable to begin with.
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: buzz on October 12, 2011, 03:41:14 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. Will definately boost the air pressure F/R and see if there's improvement. Work on the forks will need to wait for later in the winter.
Buzz
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: elvin315 on October 12, 2011, 05:25:34 PM
Read the FAQs:

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=583.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=583.0)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=572.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=572.0)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?board=27.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?board=27.0)

Please remember, one owner's wobble is another's wiggle. It's all subjective. The "cure" for one might not fix your bike. Try all the free stuff before throwing money at the problem.
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: gtr1000 on October 13, 2011, 12:36:21 AM
Try all the free stuff before throwing money at the problem.

+1
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: buzz on October 15, 2011, 03:32:15 PM
Pumped up both tires, 38 frt, 40 back, put 25 psi in the rear shock and set preload at # 3. What an improvement. Wandering in the lane about 90% gone, was still quite windy today, but the bike felt much more stable and tracked a lot better.
Thanks for the advice! Still want to work on the forks this winter.
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: redzgrider on October 15, 2011, 03:49:01 PM
I didn't find a fork brace of any real help -- tire pressure, steering bearings, and a hint from SiSF to make sure the swing arm bearings are properly lubed and pre-loaded make significantly more difference.
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: roadrunner322 on October 17, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
I admit I don't know a bunch about bike suspensions.  However, a small part of this "problem" I think is the geometry of the front suspension.  My other two street bikes have the front axle in front of the forks instead of in line with the forks.  Having the axle in front of the forks decreases  "trail" and improves the tracking in a straight line.  The C10 front geometry is set up for cornering more so than other "street" bikes.

My ZN700 also has a little more "rake" which further improves straight line tracking.
Title: Re: tire pressure
Post by: goatmar on October 24, 2011, 07:49:43 PM
Running 42 in both tires. front 130/70/18 E3, rear 180/60/17 roadsmart