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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: kzz1king on July 06, 2011, 07:11:56 PM

Title: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: kzz1king on July 06, 2011, 07:11:56 PM
Stupid question, but are the c10 rims tubeless? Pulled my tires and they have tubes currently. Thanks
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: Pfloydgad on July 06, 2011, 07:15:12 PM
Like any tire system, you can use tubes, but are not necessary. I am sure more will drop in, but it is probably a personal choice.
Ride safe all.
Greg
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: Jet86 on July 06, 2011, 07:32:30 PM
The bikes came from the factory with No tubes
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: kzz1king on July 06, 2011, 08:35:13 PM
Thanks, I can't figure out why I put tubes in to start with. It must have came with tubes from previous owner and I followed suit I guess. I am going to go TUBELESS 8)

Wayne
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: Summit670 on July 06, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
You can buy the tubeless rim valve stems at the local auto parts store but remember these (my 87 anyhow) are the small dia type.

I ended up using the oem metal with new rubber from some stems I bought at the parts store.  I liked the OEM better than what I had bought so I just used the new rubber. 

I did turn the rear 90 stem at a 45 degree angle but next time I'll leave it at a 90 angle to the rim because now every time I check pressure or add air I have to be careful the wheel doesn't turn on me from the pressure I apply to the valve stem.  The stem is still a 90 but I rotated it a little for better access.
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: Outback_Jon on July 06, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
If we're going to talk valve stems, I got the 85 degree stems from kurveygirl (http://kurveygirl.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=72).  I point them both towards the right side of the bike for easy access when the bike's on the sidestand.

I just bought a second set for my recent tire replacement as a precaution against the seals getting old. (about 35k since I installed the stems)  But the ones I took off look quite good.  Cheap insurance, anyway.
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: elvin315 on July 06, 2011, 10:30:09 PM
A few things have gone unmentioned. They don't seem to weigh much but a tube in a tubeless tire is unneccessary unsprung weight resulting in a rougher ride. Tubes in tubeless tires can overheat the tires. A warm tire grips better than a cold one (within the tire's operating temp range). A hot front  tire will get "greasy". Not literally but it will get slippery to the point of "washing out" resulting in a low-side crash. A tube adds thickness to a tubeless' supple sidewall and prevents the it from placing its tread on the road surface as designed.

Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: Pfloydgad on July 07, 2011, 06:33:50 PM
A few things have gone unmentioned. They don't seem to weigh much but a tube in a tubeless tire is unneccessary unsprung weight resulting in a rougher ride. Tubes in tubeless tires can overheat the tires. A warm tire grips better than a cold one (within the tire's operating temp range). A hot front  tire will get "greasy". Not literally but it will get slippery to the point of "washing out" resulting in a low-side crash. A tube adds thickness to a tubeless' supple sidewall and prevents the it from placing its tread on the road surface as designed.
So there,
Ride safe anyway, even you Elvin, you smarty pants.
Greg
Title: Re: Are the C10 tires tubed?
Post by: kzz1king on July 07, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
For what it's worth the rear tube weighs 2.6 pounds (without air 8)).
It would have been fun trying to use my plug kit on a tubed tire!