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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: medicevans on May 12, 2011, 06:12:16 AM

Title: Which oil?
Post by: medicevans on May 12, 2011, 06:12:16 AM
So what oil is everyone running now?  Figured we might as well get this outta the way.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Jet86 on May 12, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
 :rotflmao:  I'm running Castrol 10W-40 and maybe a little bit of gasoline after the hydrolock.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: medicevans on May 12, 2011, 06:31:46 AM
Whoa! Isn't that a car oil?!?!  I heard we can only use diesel oil in them thar' bikes. I'm running Rotella T6 syn.  In my extensive five mile torture test it's obviously the best oil I've ever used!   :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: midnightrider on May 12, 2011, 07:16:08 AM
So what oil is everyone running now?  Figured we might as well get this outta the way.

HaHa! Feels like home already!

I've been using T6 Rotella, but last time I tried Mobile 1 deisel 5w-40.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: mjrfd99 on May 12, 2011, 07:28:48 AM
Last fri: 1203 mi in 19 hrs on Rotella synth
Didn't burn a drop. Good stuff!!!
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Lodogg2221 on May 12, 2011, 07:45:01 AM
Used to use 10W40 MX4T, but switched to Mobil 1 TDT 4w40, and its worked well for me for the last few years...
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: RapidRoy on May 12, 2011, 08:19:24 AM
Amsoil synthetic 15w-40 heavy duty diesel and marine oil.
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Post by: Cholla on May 12, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
Engine oil! That's what I use!
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Post by: Son of Pappy on May 12, 2011, 09:13:39 AM
Mobil extended mileage mixed with 2 quarts of slick 50.  Makes everything smooth as buttah! ;)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 12, 2011, 09:21:20 AM
I'm trying out 3 In 1 oil......
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Bluegray on May 12, 2011, 12:15:05 PM
I knew we would be discussing oil again. The forum is alive and well again.
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Post by: sf bay rider on May 12, 2011, 12:31:18 PM
Popcorn Oil!!!!!!! Butter flavor, mind you!
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: George in N Az on May 12, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
The best of threads! It had to be asked. Amsoil for smooth shifting.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: gtr1000 on May 12, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Urine or full synthetic - they both have the same appearance but one does a better job in the engine  ::)

Only MHO mind you  ;)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: norcalbarney on May 12, 2011, 12:48:43 PM
Rotella T6 synthetic 5w40 from Kragen.

Who's got the "Did somebody say oil???" pic?
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: RIP50AK on May 12, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
Picked up Castrol 4T 10w-40 to put in after I get 600 Miles on it. Hope either some use or new oil improves the clunky shifting in 1st & 2nd.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Bluegray on May 12, 2011, 02:44:09 PM
The PO ran castrol Dino in my bike and I had hard shifting in first and second until I went to synthetic. It changed my shifting completely, I will never go back.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Cybercraig on May 12, 2011, 05:00:04 PM
The nicest job possible will be done,
with 15/50weight Mobil 1  8)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Uglydog56 on May 12, 2011, 05:12:22 PM
I'm using extra virgin olive oil - it's supposed to be better for you.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Mettler1 on May 12, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
I'm trying out 3 In 1 oil......

   Me too! Used up my left over stuff. 8)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Roadhound on May 12, 2011, 07:16:21 PM
I run Shell Rotella 15w40. I've never used synthetic oil in any of my Concours. I have had no cam pitting and no oill related failures, bike shifts wonderful, and I have put a few miles on the Concours I've owned. Run what you want, spend what you want I find conventional motor oil works just fine.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: MizzouMike on May 12, 2011, 07:28:06 PM
I'm using extra virgin olive oil - it's supposed to be better for you.

Could you use a balsamic vinegar as an additive?
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: booger on May 12, 2011, 08:19:58 PM
I use the one in the plastic bottle.  But I use it often (every 2500 miles)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Branded on May 12, 2011, 08:26:19 PM
Rotella T6 synthetic 5w40
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: nosaint7 on May 13, 2011, 07:06:05 AM
I'm using extra virgin olive oil - it's supposed to be better for you.

+1 !  And...  the guys behind me seem to stop at every place that serves Italian food....    ;D
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: ridgrunr on May 13, 2011, 07:22:03 AM
I'm running straight WD-40 in mine.  I use it to keep the brakes from squeaking and it works great to shine the plastic and the tires too!
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: kbecker3 on May 13, 2011, 07:25:37 AM
Mine seems to have more performance when it doesn't have oil in it... Must be all the drag from the oil.... I think i am just going  to run it like that from now on.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: mach1charlie on May 13, 2011, 10:30:00 AM
Rotella 15-40 every 3k, and filter every other time (6k).
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: jim snyder on May 13, 2011, 11:13:57 AM
Royal Purple 15-40 every 5,000 miles.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Cholla on May 13, 2011, 12:32:17 PM
I'm using extra virgin olive oil - it's supposed to be better for you.
That is used in Moto Guzzis!
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: GeeBeav on May 13, 2011, 08:21:04 PM
Rotella T6 synthetic 5w40 from Kragen.


Is Kragen's better?
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Two Skies on May 13, 2011, 09:03:40 PM
I was buying Walmart Rotella T6 Synthetic, but then my local Walmart stopped carrying it, so I was buying it from Checker, but they changed their name to Reilly (Reilly bought Checker a few years back, and they are just getting around to changing the signs).  So I guess I have Reilly Shell Rotella T6 Synthetic.

Dunno if that's better than Kragen T6 or not...
 ;D

All kidding aside, I'm VERY happy with this oil.  Smooth shifts, and no issues I'm aware of.  5w when it's cold means it distributes more quickly through the engine, and builds up to a decent viscosity (40) as it warms.  Plus, I like it when my mechanic friend teases me about putting Truck oil in a bike...
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Pynikal on May 13, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
i used 10w40 castrol

thoughts.....
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: DarrellB on May 13, 2011, 09:21:28 PM
Pure olive oil. no fat. Taste great.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Pynikal on May 13, 2011, 09:24:01 PM
Pure olive oil. no fat. Taste great.

interesting..... ;D

following you would be very pleasant i would say.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 13, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
i used 10w40 castrol

thoughts.....

GTX is good low cost  Dino oil...... Used it for years myself.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 13, 2011, 09:28:40 PM
interesting..... ;D

following you would be very pleasant i would say.

I used to work in a Honda Shop in the 80's and my brother used to come hang around on his time off; he said the new bikes stunk like a fish factory when I was test riding them.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: frogrider on May 14, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
(http://assets2.revzilla.com/product_images/0001/9013/Mobil_1_Racing_4T_10W40_Motor_Oil_detail.jpg?1235104558)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Squishman on May 14, 2011, 07:58:03 PM
Honda 10w40 oil.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: DarrellB on May 15, 2011, 07:46:24 AM
I actually tried the Walmart brand racing 4T this time to see how it does compared to name brands.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Outback_Jon on May 15, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
Another Rotella T6 5W40 user here.  Just started using it, as Walmart almost never has their brand of 10W40 full synthetic in stock around here.  When I asked about it, the salesperson said that it always sells out quickly.  I asked why they don't order larger quantities and got a blank stare.  ::)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Bluegray on May 15, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
The PO had been running Castrol Gtx in my bike. I had always used Casrol in my bikes when I was younger. I was told Castrol had changed it's ingredients and should not be used in MC's. I contacted Castrol and they advised it was no recommended to be used in MC's.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 15, 2011, 06:30:10 PM
The PO had been running Castrol Gtx in my bike. I had always used Casrol in my bikes when I was younger. I was told Castrol had changed it's ingredients and should not be used in MC's. I contacted Castrol and they advised it was no recommended to be used in MC's.

Did they say why not or recommend the use of their own brand of motorcycle specific oil?
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: DarrellB on May 15, 2011, 07:34:03 PM
That seems strange to me. I knew serveral mc mechanics that used Castrol as their house oil for the bikes they did service for.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 15, 2011, 07:40:53 PM
That seems strange to me. I knew serveral mc mechanics that used Castrol as their house oil for the bikes they did service for.

Times and oils have changed a lot but when I worked in the Honda M/C Shop in the 80's we did sell Honda M/C oil in the front and we would install if you asked but the service dept house oil was Castrol GTX Oil as at that time it met all of Honda's M/C spec.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Lodogg2221 on May 15, 2011, 08:16:09 PM
Did they say why not or recommend the use of their own brand of motorcycle specific oil?

They probably do that because now they have the moto specific oils.

I know years back Valvoline didnt have any such disclaimer on their site, but now they recommend their motorcycle oil.  I heard too that they now have a synthetic moto oil as well.  Might give that a shot next change.  Ive always liked their other oils...
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: not2old on May 15, 2011, 11:05:06 PM
I buy the cheapest oil I can find at the convenience store and add half a tube of KY.  Working so far.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Murph on May 16, 2011, 08:32:21 PM
Castrol  Actevo x-tra''

Murph
COG 2769
Industry member
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: oldsmoboat on May 29, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
I ran an Olds 455 in a jet boat for years.  Castrol is the only oil the motor ever broke down and it only took about 10 hours.  I thought the top end had went south on me.  Changed over to Royal Purple and I was good to go.

What's the advantage of "Diesel" oil in a bike?
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Lodogg2221 on May 29, 2011, 09:24:18 AM
I ran an Olds 455 in a jet boat for years.  Castrol is the only oil the motor ever broke down and it only took about 10 hours.  I thought the top end had went south on me.  Changed over to Royal Purple and I was good to go.

What's the advantage of "Diesel" oil in a bike?


More of everything as I understand it.  Higher zinc content, more like a moto-specific oil, and better ability to keep the "dirt" suspended. 
Lots of info about that over at www.bobistheoilguy.com (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com)

I tried it based on tons of recommendations on the VTX forum when I had one, and based on the BITOG site, and was happy with it, so I continued using it on the Connie.  Well, it went in the Bandit first, and now the Connie. 

I used to use MX4T or whatever Mobil 1 calls it now, but a change to my current oil, Mobil 1 TDT, and Ive noticed NO difference in the way the bike sounds or works.  I know sometimes guys notice a difference in shift feel, or some hear different sounds even, but when I switched, it sounded the same as always and worked the same as it had on the previous MX4T too...and its about half the price.
Of course I wouldnt use an oil simply based on sound or feel, but some do judge oils that way, so I thought Id throw that last bit in there.

Personally, I like having synthetic in the engine.  Some dont.  Its just one more thing to add to the oil debate, but it boils down to using what you are comfortable with in the engine, based on everything you have come up with doing your own research. 

And, while I like the TDT oil, I do feel a bit better with a moto-specific oil in there, and really, its not THAT much more expensive to use it.  Heck, I spend probably 4x more on oil in my truck in a year than I do on the bike!  Not to mention the other two cars...so $40 an oil change in the bike, even if its twice a year, is nothing.

Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Cholla on May 30, 2011, 09:49:51 AM
Oh boy! Another oil thread! :-)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: connie_rider on May 30, 2011, 10:00:06 AM
I run Shell Rotella 15w40. I've never used synthetic oil in any of my Concours. I have had no cam pitting and no oill related failures, bike shifts wonderful, and I have put a few miles on the Concours I've owned. Run what you want, spend what you want I find conventional motor oil works just fine.

+1
I keep thinking I want to try to use the Rotella, Synthetic...   But I've never had a problem,, so why change?
Convince me...

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 30, 2011, 04:15:20 PM
I keep thinking I want to try to use the Rotella, Synthetic...   But I've never had a problem,, so why change?
Convince me...

Absolutely noting wrong with running dino oil; even automotive dino oil as long as it is changed out regularly as motorcycle engines are harder on oil period simply due to design. And just as important is that it is of the proper viscosity too; in fact slightly heavier oils such as 15/40 or 20/50 which are listed as acceptable in the both the Owner's and Service Manuals will often show an added benefit of improving the quality of the feel of the shifting when fresh.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is simply voicing "THEIR" opinion.... To which my opinion is on Mobil 1 15W50...

Convinced?
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: oldsmoboat on May 30, 2011, 05:07:26 PM
... To which my opinion is on Mobil 1 15W50...

Convinced?
I sent to 3 places today and none of them had it.   :-[
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 30, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
I sent to 3 places today and none of them had it.   :-[

I've never not found my flavor on the shelf at AutoZone.....
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: oldsmoboat on May 30, 2011, 05:34:42 PM
I've never not found my flavor on the shelf at AutoZone.....
AutoZone is the first place I went to.  They were having some kind of sale with oil/filters/some other stuff in a package.  They were low on oil.
Then I went to Kragen.  Then to Reibe's. 
There a Tognotti's and a Pep Boys near my work.  I'll try it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on May 30, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
AutoZone is the first place I went to.  They were having some kind of sale with oil/filters/some other stuff in a package.  They were low on oil.
Then I went to Kragen.  Then to Reibe's. 
There a Tognotti's and a Pep Boys near my work.  I'll try it tomorrow.

I hate to say it but have you tried going to Wally World? I've seen it there before; but I hate shopping there more than going to the Dentist.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Strawboss on May 31, 2011, 09:23:06 AM
I used oil once.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Cholla on May 31, 2011, 12:09:26 PM
I used oil once.
Did you get a ring job to stop the oil usage? :yikes: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Strawboss on May 31, 2011, 03:19:14 PM
Keep my personal life outta this. ;D
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: amigoride on May 31, 2011, 08:45:26 PM
Oil threads make me (and a lot of others) crazy!

We keep hearing "never had a problem" testimonies........... Has anyone ever had an oil related engine failure?? Never had a problem because no one has ever had a problem....or have they?
Seems to me "motorcycle" specific oil is 90% marketing. If you read all the "research" most of us come to the conclusion that there are dozens of oil products (almost any) that will work just fine.
There are literally hundreds of different oil labels out there. Do you really think they produce that many "different" products. Don't cave into all the marketing crap. Do some reading, go with what makes you comfortable. It's all good.
Change the stuff regularly and ride the thing.
JMHO
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: Mettler1 on May 31, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
Oil threads make me (and a lot of others) crazy!

We keep hearing "never had a problem" testimonies........... Has anyone ever had an oil related engine failure?? Never had a problem because no one has ever had a problem....or have they?
Seems to me "motorcycle" specific oil is 90% marketing. If you read all the "research" most of us come to the conclusion that there are dozens of oil products (almost any) that will work just fine.
There are literally hundreds of different oil labels out there. Do you really think they produce that many "different" products. Don't cave into all the marketing crap. Do some reading, go with what makes you comfortable. It's all good.
Change the stuff regularly and ride the thing.
JMHO
   Exactly!! You said it better than I could have. Thanks. :goodpost:
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: gildaguz on June 02, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
 
Motul - 300V Ester Synthetic Oil
 10W40 -   



Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: tvpierce on June 03, 2011, 07:45:31 AM
Oil threads make me (and a lot of others) crazy!

We keep hearing "never had a problem" testimonies........... Has anyone ever had an oil related engine failure?? Never had a problem because no one has ever had a problem....or have they?


+1

I would imagine if you never changed your oil, it would be 30-40K... maybe more... before you'd ever have an oil related failure.  Would damage be occurring during that time?  Sure... but I bet the engine & tranny would still be functioning without issue.

Just a guess though.  Anyone wanna try it in the name of science?  :)
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: T Cro ® on June 03, 2011, 08:04:42 AM
+1

I would imagine if you never changed your oil, it would be 30-40K... maybe more... before you'd ever have an oil related failure.  Would damage be occurring during that time?  Sure... but I bet the engine & tranny would still be functioning without issue.

Just a guess though.  Anyone wanna try it in the name of science?  :)

Have 20,000 hours on the oil with 24,000 hours since last rebuild of our main diesel engines with only filter changes and replenishment of oil lost or used. Only reason oils were changed at 4,000 hours were due to the oils being contaminated by crankcase explosions or failures.
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: GeeBeav on June 03, 2011, 11:23:25 AM

Motul - 300V Ester Synthetic Oil
 10W40 - 1 Liter

better add a couple more liters
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: vman on June 03, 2011, 07:16:25 PM
ha ha....oil.....  as long as its OIL  and roughly the right grade then youre done.   Has anybody short of a racer or extreme rider had ANY oil problems?     I have been riding since I was 10 years old and destroyed bikes in many ways but NEVER had a problem with oil.   As long as its something between 5w40 and 20w50 and its on sale I will use it.     Unless I am riding across the sahara desert and my freaking life depends on it.      Mostly like has been mentioned already I think youre buying a feel-good product for yourself..... the bike doesnt care but you have the bragging rights and can feel smug!   I am not sure what brand is in my connie but I know I got a good deal on it!   
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: medicevans on June 03, 2011, 07:22:30 PM
I've had oil related problems for a while now. Every time I rub it on my wife I end up.....oh wait. Engine oil.  Nevermind..........
Title: Re: Which oil?
Post by: timsatx on June 03, 2011, 09:17:04 PM
I saw the Motul at the dealership the other day and DAMN it was expensive. Not for me thanks.