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Offline maxtog

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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2012, 08:25:48 PM »
On a bike with the catalytic converter still in the header pipes (meaning still on the bike) there is just not that much difference in back pressure with a slip on pipe vs stock.

I wouldn't think so either.

Another interesting note- headers, pipes, mufflers, etc are tuned/sized for specific back pressure and flow to work together to produce desirable performance, efficiency, pollution control, and noise control.  Altering it in unusual/mismatched ways that do not work together can sometimes actually lead to lowering overall performance or just shifting compromises around.

A real "performance" exhaust is one that is designed (and tested) specifically for the size/type/behavior engine (and its implementation) and includes all the matched components from the exhaust ports on the engine all the way out the tailpipe.  This is what I was taught by a race mechanic.

Seems like most people just slap on an aftermarket muffler and perhaps a short section of mid pipe and pretend all the extra/different noise is actually doing much more than extra/different noise.

Or I might just have no idea what I am talking about, that is always a possibility too.  I will ask my friend some specific questions about the "missing" at lower RPM. as described, this weekend.
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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2012, 10:36:17 PM »
Now that things have settled down, I suggest that those of you wish to help the OP go read
his previous posts. It seems he hit a deer over a year ago and suffered some bike damage. Then
in November he said he "went aftermarket" on his exhaust and was selling his stock exhaust.
So was his CS One installed in November and he just now is getting a miss? ...or did he
just recently change from one after market exhaust slip on to the CS One. I think we
need a more detailed time line on his exhaust changes in relationship to the first notice
of the miss. I'm not as experienced as many on this board, but I've never had a miss that was
due to exhaust changes or problems. With the exception of an exhaust valve malfunction (once
in an automobile) all were due to either ignition problems, injector problems, or intake vacuum leaks.
(Yeah, I know, I've been real lucky with carburetors. I have no idea why, but I'm not going to complain about it.)
Darknesses, I think we need more info.

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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2012, 06:15:58 AM »
Go read his previous posts. It seems he hit a deer over a year ago and suffered some bike damage. Then [...]

Kewl!  Are you a detective in real life???
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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2012, 06:47:47 AM »
Kewl!  Are you a detective in real life???
Yeah, Yeah, thanks max', I needed that.  :)  ;) ...I understand that hitting a deer doesn't have
much to do with a miss (or rather the fact that he didn't miss) but I was just trying to point out that
the bike in question wasn't some pristine C14 that just recently had some exhaust system change and
then suddenly developed a miss. That is to say, it's had some work done, and maybe we just might need
a lot more info to actually be of some assistance to the original poster. Specifically the timeline thing I mentioned
in the earlier post.

Marty...aka: Shamus want-a-be   8)

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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2012, 11:55:43 AM »
This could be caused by more air moving through the new can and the bike running leaner because of it.

Yep.....I agree with this man.

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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 05:57:57 PM »
Yep.....I agree with this man.

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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2012, 12:09:08 PM »
It happens neither during deceleration or acceleration. It happens at low rpms in first and second gear at low speeds like when in traffic or the city.  It did not do it with the stock muffler.

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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2012, 12:17:57 PM »
Put the stocker back on, get a PCV, or continue to put up with it. ;)
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Re: installed aftermartet exhaust and an engine miss too?
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2012, 03:20:12 PM »
Has the throttle sync been done. Could be that the new can emphasizes the problem that you had and didn't realize. I would start by putting the potato launcher back on and see if the problem goes away. If it does then you need a fuel manager like a PC V as noted above. If it's the same then try a throttle body sync.