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Offline Bagger

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Riser interference on 2009 ???
« on: May 20, 2012, 04:56:03 PM »
Hooked up some MCLs risers along with my custom up and back blocks plus Phil's wedges on a friends bike.  I did this to my bike last year and the position really changed the way I can ride ... no wrist/arm/shoulder pain.  No neck discomfort, yada, yada.  All is good.

But, my bike is a 2010 ... my friend's is a 2009.  We found that the tank 'cubby' on his bike interfered with the risers, unlike mine.  We removed the top of the cubby and all was well.  2010s+ don't have the cubby.

Here's my question ... the tanks look the same/same.  Just different covers up front.  Can we remove his entire cubby and install a 2010 cover?  I'd take mine off, but don't want to fool with it at this time.  Plus, he's in RI ... I'm in CT.

Lemme know if anyone knows this.  Thanx in advance.
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2012, 05:18:50 PM »
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 05:27:28 PM »
Hmmm....
 
My Connie is an 09, I have 2" Heli risers and Murphs wedges as well, mine doesn't interfere with the center glove box at all...
 
 

 
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2012, 05:42:40 PM »
Quote from: ZG on May 20, 2012, 05:27:28 PM

My Connie is an 09, I have 2" Heli risers and Murphs wedges as well, mine doesn't interfere with the center glove box at all...

That's because you are using "regular" risers that have no offset (Heli, Genmar, Murph's, etc).  Some risers (perhaps the ones he is using) are not just straight risers, they are "offset".  The offset ones attempt to move the bars back more than standard ones can and will hit the taller tank cover on the gen-1  C-14's.

What I don't understand is that MCL (Motor Cycle Larry) risers do NOT appear to be the offset variety...  http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=169  So there is something strange going on; I suspect they are not really MCL?
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 05:46:01 PM »
Quote from: maxtog on May 20, 2012, 05:42:40 PM
That's because you are using "regular" risers that have no offset (Heli, Genmar, Murph's, etc).  I think the MCL ones he is using are not just straight risers, they are "offset".  The offset ones attempt to move the bars back more than standard ones can and will hit the taller tank cover on the gen-1  C-14's.

Ah yes, good point Max, I missed that part that he had the MCL risers, my bad...
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 05:50:11 PM »
Quote from: ZG on May 20, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
Ah yes, good point Max, I missed that part that he had the MCL risers, my bad...

I edited my post after you read and responded to the original.... look again... something is odd...
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 06:46:50 PM »
OP said he has "up and back" blocks. That's the likely culprit. I forget the manufacturer, but read one "up and back" manufacturer and the site said they don't work with the 08-09 glovebox.
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 07:53:28 PM »
Yeah, think you folks don't remember my set up.  I have 1 set of MCLs risers .... then MY custom 1" x 4" block ... then Phil's wedges with the antlers on top of this.  See below.

<<I tried several risers and read the forum, but eventurally ..... I had some 1" x 4" aluminum blocks made to fit over MCLs risers (along with Phil's wedges).  This moved the bars up about 2.75" and back maybe another 2 or so inches.  Phil's wedges added some kant to the thing as well.>>

My 4" blocks hit the '09s cubby top.  There is no interference with my 2010 since the cubby is gone and the area is depressed.

I have a post somewhere on here with some photos of my setup when ZG was posting.  I can't find it readily, but it's here.
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 08:58:18 PM »
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2012, 09:17:44 AM »
Holy c-mokes ! You got that many blocks?! Did you have to put long lines? My murf blocks are already taunting the brake and clutch lines.
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2012, 11:02:44 AM »
No, using stock lines.  I drew these up on paper based on some measurements.  Then mocked them up in wood, drilled the holes and bolted them to the MCL risers to see if there was a problem.  There was none.  Found a machinist to CAD/CAM the blocks and viola !

I was having the Kawa shop install some stuff, so had them check out the hoses/lines.  I think they may have re-routed the lines a bit, but don't know.  But, it works well for me ... and my friend who we hooked up yesterday.  Now, we need to know if the cubby on the pre-2010 can be replaced with the 2010+ tank cover??
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2012, 11:15:37 AM »
Kawasaki Authority sales has some 4" offset risers that will fit the 08-09 Concours. If more info is needed give David a call over at http://kawasakipolice.com/
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2012, 11:25:11 AM »
Quote from: Bagger on May 21, 2012, 11:02:44 AM
No, using stock lines.  I drew these up on paper based on some measurements.  Then mocked them up in wood, drilled the holes and bolted them to the MCL risers to see if there was a problem.  There was none.  Found a machinist to CAD/CAM the blocks and viola !

I was having the Kawa shop install some stuff, so had them check out the hoses/lines.  I think they may have re-routed the lines a bit, but don't know.  But, it works well for me ... and my friend who we hooked up yesterday. Now, we need to know if the cubby on the pre-2010 can be replaced with the 2010+ tank cover??


Did you miss Gary's post above?


Quote from: gPink on May 20, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
Try this.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7322.msg86997#msg86997
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2012, 03:29:20 PM »
Quote from: Awaz on May 21, 2012, 09:17:44 AM
Holy c-mokes ! You got that many blocks?! Did you have to put long lines? My murf blocks are already taunting the brake and clutch lines.

:)  When I look at that "tower of power" I just have to wonder how strong it all is!  I am all for modifying as necessary to allow pain-free riding, but wow! :)
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2012, 04:05:34 PM »
Yeah, I did miss the entire post, Gary made.  I did look at it.  I guess if I had looked for this before, I would not be asking now.

The set up is quite strong.  I'm using 90 mm and 70 mm ss A2 bolts, as well as some oems.  Why wouldn't it be strong?  I have over 3k miles on the set up and I like it a great deal.  There was nothing out there when I started thinking about this.  I needed something that was much more up and back than the typical MCLs risers ... I still was uncomfy with those and the added Phil's wedges.

This set up is not for everyone.  If you like the stock position, then you are good to go.  I was not.  If you like some risers and / or wedges that make you comfortable, then good.  I still had wrist, hand, neck, back, elbow pain with these.  It was not until I hooked these puppies up that I was breathing a sigh of relief.  My riding buddy had the same smile and nodded 'yes' yesterday after an hour in the saddle.  Even after 4 hours, he was comfortable for the 1st time.  He rode with just the risers and some wedges I gave him.  But, with my 'blocks', his pull back was considerable.

Anyway, these are as strong as oem.
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Re: Riser interference on 2009 ???
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 05:03:45 PM »
Quote from: Mal on May 21, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Kawasaki Authority sales has some 4" offset risers that will fit the 08-09 Concours. If more info is needed give David a call over at http://kawasakipolice.com/

What he said.....
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