The problem with the Top Blocks, as demonstrated in ZG's last pic, is that they might not protect the bags. In a controlled parking lot type drop, in which the rider knows that the bike is going down and he does his best to help her down as gently as possible, the Top Blocks alone would work fine. But I think that a rougher drop would cause a little tipping or even a bounce that would bang the corner of the bags.
First off, I'd like to thank ZG for the kind words! We certainly do our best to satisfy our customers and it's not always as easy as it seems! I think the design of the Top Blocks is optimal and I'll begin building off that idea. I can tell you that our version would probably be tubular though and not cast which would cut down tremendously on cost.
Do any of you guys have an issue with tubular Canyon Cages as opposed to the cast variation of the Top Blocks? A tubular design would help keep the cost cut nearly in half.
Regarding Conrads comments, I don't think any front-end protection is going to fully protect the rear end of the bike. This is partially why we decided to design a separate guard for the rear of the bike.
These are not the same bars. The bottom one looks tubular. The top one, looks like it is from your bike ZG, but the bottom one looks like it is off of another bike.
Ha, busted....
Anybody that takes that many pictures of his bike would not chance scratching it by setting it on its side?
Are we talking ONLY tip over protection? Or, are we talking about something to offer some protection in a slide?
I'd really like to get your guys' feedback so we can build these things to the specifications of serious civilian riders.
1) I think your canyons look 1,000 times better than the bathroom bars.
2) I personally wouldn't care if it were 2, 3, or even 4 mount points.
3) I personally don't care about EXTREME lean angles.
4) I am *very* averse to drilling or modifying my fairing panels.
5) It would be nice to have other color options. Black won't look good on light colored bikes, leaving only the chrome option. Chrome doesn't meld terribly well the the Concours, which uses an aluminum look on the sides, pegs, etc. Also, chrome can't be easily be repaired or fixed if it gets badly scuffed.
6) I am not thrilled about any protection that requires removing them and then reinstalling them every time I need to take the fairings off. It is already hard enough to change a turn signal bulb... However, I understand that there is probably no other option. GSG's are about the most you can do for the front without impeding fairing removal.
Hope this helps.
The problem with the Top Blocks, as demonstrated in ZG's last pic, is that they might not protect the bags. In a controlled parking lot type drop, in which the rider knows that the bike is going down and he does his best to help her down as gently as possible, the Top Blocks alone would work fine. But I think that a rougher drop would cause a little tipping or even a bounce that would bang the corner of the bags.
Just in case anyone is intersted in how the Top Block mounts and why/where you have to drill the hole here is the install directions translated into english and also an overview of how/where they mount.
Maybe this will be helpfull in your brainstorming session...
The white elephant in the room is probably these, mentioned in another thread:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6763/602/
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Adventure_Bars/AB0002BK.aspx
"R&G Adventure Bars." No question this is the same general class that McE is targeting with "Canyon Cages"
They are pretty darn thin. And there are no photos anywhere from an angle, so it is hard to tell the protrusion. Zero info about how much protection on front fairings/mirror/etc for a tipover.
This is definitely helpful, thank you for posting! I'll take a look at their mounting instructions and see if I can pry any useful information out of 'em!
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They are pretty darn thin. And there are no photos anywhere from an angle, so it is hard to tell the protrusion. Zero info about how much protection on front fairings/mirror/etc for a tipover.
Front shots here... http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2778.msg31921#msg31921
When I mentioned pegs I had these BMW models (link below) in mind for those who want them. They are barely seen when not in use or in our case here it could be offered as an add on or make a provision to allow the owner to mount them. I don't like buying separate peg mounts whereas the crash protection is strong enough to do both jobs and look well. It's great to have someone like Ryan to listen to our needs and design the best solution at a reasonable price.
http://www.cvmtouringaccessories.com/J_Pegs/default.html