Oil Filter

[MAN OF BLUES]

A) I was not spouting off, I have cut open plenty of oil filters,


B) I made my statement based on two things, one there are very few actual oil filter manufactures, therefore many of the oil filters made are made by the same companies.

thanks...
I have this to say, as i did before...
A) cut open this exact filter....
B) tell us who, exactly who, makes it.....

C) please don't assume, surmise, etc., about it  (who makes it...) and I have no interest in the Valk, ST, or any other long winded explanation.
This filter is quite unique in manufacture, I don't know who makes it, but in comparing it with all the top guns out there, I have NOT seen a similar one.

thanks again.

I would like to know, as would others....sorry to appear so mean, but that's all I have to say about that.

[OregonLAN]

You can find some pictures here:
http://www.greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?127512-Inside-of-the-Ultra-Oil-Filter

Notice the different sponge like media and the lack of bypass valve. It's not the "exact" same filter (different threads), but it's built the same.

[MAN OF BLUES]

yep, that's what it looks like inside...and I see we are not the only forum with people saying WIX etc...

as mentioned there is a bypass internal in the engine in the oil path.

 as with the old Conni, C10, there a bypass was in the stem bolt that went thru the oem and all replacement cartridges.

[valkmc]

thanks...
I have this to say, as i did before...
A) cut open this exact filter....
B) tell us who, exactly who, makes it.....

C) please don't assume, surmise, etc., about it  (who makes it...) and I have no interest in the Valk, ST, or any other long winded explanation.
This filter is quite unique in manufacture, I don't know who makes it, but in comparing it with all the top guns out there, I have NOT seen a similar one.

thanks again.

I would like to know, as would others....sorry to appear so mean, but that's all I have to say about that.

No need to say your sorry, it does not matter to me what someone who I do not know says about what I think on a forum-it is just how it is in the internet age, no one speaks face to face anymore.

As for the filter, I have one sitting on the shelf in my garage and when I return from my summer trip I will put it on and cut it open when I am finished with it. I will post pictures when I do it.

When I leave central Florida next month for a 11,000 mile round trip to Alaska I will have a proven filter on my C14 and a spare in my bag, one I know will not let me down because I have used it for 100,000's of miles. I won't use something just because a company tells me it is the best, I like tried and tested.

Enjoy your bike, I know we can agree they are a lot of fun.

[fmwhit]

I switch back and forth between the stock Kawi filter and the Purolator PL14610.   They both seem to work well for me as I usually change the oil and filter at approx 2 k miles as I run non synthetic oil.

[OregonLAN]

Looks like it could possibly be a Denso oil filter, not a Wix. They have a manufacturing plant in Thailand and Japan.

These pictures are from a tractor, but the inside look similar.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/mahindra-owning-operating/184611-inside-denso-oil-filter.html

These are from a Mitsubishi filter made by Denso:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1537930&fpart=2

Denso filters are pretty good, FYIY.

[Sindarin]

Looks like it could possibly be a Denso oil filter, not a Wix. They have a manufacturing plant in Thailand and Japan.

Denso filters are pretty good, FYIY.

Picked up a oil filter from the dealer last week and it is indeed a Denso, made in Japan.

[MAN OF BLUES]

Looks like it could possibly be a Denso oil filter, not a Wix. They have a manufacturing plant in Thailand and Japan.

These pictures are from a tractor, but the inside look similar.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/mahindra-owning-operating/184611-inside-denso-oil-filter.html

These are from a Mitsubishi filter made by Denso:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1537930&fpart=2

Denso filters are pretty good, FYIY.

thank you sir!!!
that is by all evidence, the exact same configuration, design of the innerds, and the seal retainer system, used on the oEM C14 filter....
I believe we now have a clear cut knowledge WHO DOES make that filter!!!

thanks again,

[Barry]

My guess is if someone we trust (MURPH!) carried an OEM or OEM-like filter (MURPH!) a lot of us on this board would spend money on those items at that shop (MURPH!)....  one stop shop, dealing with someone you trust (MURPH), knows our bike, etc.

I would....  I just bought 6 filters.  Had Murph sold them, I'd have paid whatever he was asking, cause I like him.

Barry

[Conrad]

My guess is if someone we trust (MURPH!) carried an OEM or OEM-like filter (MURPH!) a lot of us on this board would spend money on those items at that shop (MURPH!)....  one stop shop, dealing with someone you trust (MURPH), knows our bike, etc.

I would....  I just bought 6 filters.  Had Murph sold them, I'd have paid whatever he was asking, cause I like him.

Barry

 

[CrashGordon]

Regarding the story about the Fram filter and the destroyed engine, it was stated that the problem was the seal on the filter. I have seen a similar failure in a Wix filter. In this instance, it was caught quickly when the oil pressure light came on (this was on a car, not a bike). It was very easy to find the problem due to the oil spray that was evident around the filter. When the filter was removed, a flaw in the gasket was fairly evident. What this amounted to was not properly inspecting the gasket before installing the oil filter. Ever since that episode (happened to my dad on one of the cars he bought when he took it to have the oil changed), I have judiciously inspected my filter gaskets prior to installation. In fact, I will usually pull them out of the box and look at them before I buy them.

By the way, I've used Fram filters on all of my cars for over 25 years with nary a problem.

[ConnerNA]

The Supertech filters are $2.70 at our local Wal-Mart. It, and a jug of Rotella 15w/40w, will set you back about $15.00 total.

OK so I plan on changing my oil tonight....Rotella 15W40 and SuperTech filter...what model number is the filter (ST7317)?

Glad to hear other run Rotella and SuperTech filters. I have ran this combination on the last two bikes I have owned with no issues. Here again as long as you change your oil regularly I think you will be fine.

Ohh yeah one last quesiton...how many quarts do I need?

[ConnerNA]

forgot to add a couple of other questions....I am at about 9,000 so I was also going to change plugs and final gear case oil....what plugs is everyone using, and what final gear case oil?

[Conrad]

OK so I plan on changing my oil tonight....Rotella 15W40 and SuperTech filter...what model number is the filter (ST7317)?

Glad to hear other run Rotella and SuperTech filters. I have ran this combination on the last two bikes I have owned with no issues. Here again as long as you change your oil regularly I think you will be fine.

Ohh yeah one last quesiton...how many quarts do I need?

4.5 qts oil will do ya.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm using this for my bike's gear oil.

[lather]

When you find out how much trouble it is to change spark plugs and how long the plugs actually last you may decide to put the plug change off until you do your valve adjustment.

[Jeremy Mitchell]

When you find out how much trouble it is to change spark plugs and how long the plugs actually last you may decide to put the plug change off until you do your valve adjustment.

Very true! 

[Shoe]

Wix 51356 is the same as a

[size=14pt.........Fram PH7317
.........................

That's the same filter for the 2007 Nissan Exterra. I just bought one at Walmart.

[Khrome]

When you find out how much trouble it is to change spark plugs and how long the plugs actually last you may decide to put the plug change off until you do your valve adjustment.

uh oh 

[MAN OF BLUES]

No need to say your sorry, it does not matter to me what someone who I do not know says about what I think on a forum-it is just how it is in the internet age, no one speaks face to face anymore.

As for the filter, I have one sitting on the shelf in my garage and when I return from my summer trip I will put it on and cut it open when I am finished with it. I will post pictures when I do it.

When I leave central Florida next month for a 11,000 mile round trip to Alaska I will have a proven filter on my C14 and a spare in my bag, one I know will not let me down because I have used it for 100,000's of miles. I won't use something just because a company tells me it is the best, I like tried and tested.

Enjoy your bike, I know we can agree they are a lot of fun.

sooooooo we have not heard back from this poster, nor had his pictures posted about his findings..... prolly bought a GS and traded the old C14 in, instead of changing the oil....

just joking.....

[billyzoom]

It wouldn't matter to me which filters Wal-Mart carried or how cheap they are.  No way they're ever getting money from me.  Clearly I'm in the minority, but I've always been ahead of my time!