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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2012, 09:19:15 PM »
Nah, it goes toward the smaller end of the scale, otherwise we would never succeed at anything. If the problems got larger they would eventually overwhelm us. For example: you come home to find your house on fire but the good news is that the fire fighters are there and hosing it down. Later on, your house is 'put out' but the cellar is full of water and ashes; you have a place to stay but it is wet and kinda' stinky. You couldn't stay in a house that was on fire so the problems are getting smaller..... It is nature's way of teasing us into trying to complete tasks and procedures without giving up all at once like we probably should.

Now this poster started with a total electrical system- wide failure (from the corroded contact point) and worked his way UP to merely a weak KiPass fob battery. Once he gets that fixed up he will probably need air in a tire(s) but see, the problems get smaller.

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I think you have that backwards.  I always heard it as:  Inside every small problem is a larger problem struggling to get out.
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2012, 09:21:23 PM »
I'm just curious, if you ride the bike every day, why do you hook it up to a tender overnight?
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2012, 09:26:45 PM »
Nah, it goes toward the smaller end of the scale, otherwise we would never succeed at anything. If the problems got larger they would eventually overwhelm us. For example: you come home to find your house on fire but the good news is that the fire fighters are there and hosing it down. Later on, your house is 'put out' but the cellar is full of water and ashes; you have a place to stay but it is wet and kinda' stinky. You couldn't stay in a house that was on fire so the problems are getting smaller..... It is nature's way of teasing us into trying to complete tasks and procedures without giving up all at once like we probably should.

Now this poster started with a total electrical system- wide failure (from the corroded contact point) and worked his way UP to merely a weak KiPass fob battery. Once he gets that fixed up he will probably need air in a tire(s) but see, the problems get smaller.

 ;D

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I realize this will not change your opinion, but here it is anyway:

Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.

Inside every small problem is a larger problem struggling to get out. -- The Schainker Converse to Hoare's Law of Large Problems...
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2012, 09:32:15 PM »
Wow, lighten up Clyde, just trying to have a chuckle or two here at no one's expense. Have it your way if you want but trust me on this: if you find your basement full of water and start pumping it out, you will not be pleased should the house burst into flames.....

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P.S. You are wrong. Note the two smileys:  ;D ;D

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I realize this will not change your opinion, but here it is anyway:

Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.

Inside every small problem is a larger problem struggling to get out. -- The Schainker Converse to Hoare's Law of Large Problems...
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2012, 09:59:46 PM »
Still locked into that old passive-aggressive mode, Brian? 
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2012, 10:05:40 PM »
I don't think so, in fact this whole thing amuses me. See that is the point Clyde, some useful info. mixed in with amusement. Makes for a perfect world. The expression itself is just amusing without any particularly useful content; if you want the words rearranged, fine by me. If you want to quote sources, also fine by me and in fact, that just adds to the amusing content (Clyde is researching the factual basis of an amusing but random observation).

How about this one: The three rules of plumbing: Hot on the left, cold on the right and **** don't flow uphill. Anyone can rearrange the words or find the technical origins (if there is such a thing) while I will just chuckle at the humor embedded.

Note the three smileys:  ;D ;D ;D

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Still locked into that old passive-aggressive mode, Brian?
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2012, 04:42:02 AM »
You guys do love a good debate....
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2012, 05:10:33 AM »
Welp, I pulled the cover off and right there staring me in the face was a corroded negative terminal!  I cleaned both terminals and liberally applied the di-electric paste.  Bingo she fired up!  But that's not the end of the story.  Now I suddenly have a transponder battery low message.  It's probably low.  I haven't changed it in two years.

My question is this: what is the difference between a CR2032 and the one in the  CR2025?  I have a box full of the 2032s.  Any body know the difference?

I'm glad that you got that worked out!

On another, but related, note. If you pulled the cover off and the negative terminal was staring you in the face, your battery is mounted backwards. Not that this is a huge deal because it'll work both ways of course. But the positive terminal should be on the outside so that if one needed to jump start the bike the positive terminal is accessible without pulling the battery out.
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2012, 05:54:51 AM »
I say we need to get BDF and LT1 on stage to see who is the MASTER-DEBATER.

But they both need to be about six cocktails to the wind.  Maybe in Eureka Springs...........





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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2012, 06:36:47 AM »
Bah... that is nothing- you should have seen Clyde (Lt1) go at it with Cap'n Bob back in the olden' days. A regular mongoose and cobra show....

I do not believe Clyde drinks alcohol; I do but I won't be at this year's national unfortunately. But really Kirby is the real hell- raiser so I spend a lot of my time just trying to keep him in check.

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I say we need to get BDF and LT1 on stage to see who is the MASTER-DEBATER.

But they both need to be about six cocktails to the wind.  Maybe in Eureka Springs...........





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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2012, 06:46:51 AM »
Have you given Kirby your blessing to attend even though you won't be able to make the trip?  I was hoping for a photo op and possibly even some good conversation.   ;D
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2012, 07:38:32 AM »
I'm glad that you got that worked out!

On another, but related, note. If you pulled the cover off and the negative terminal was staring you in the face, your battery is mounted backwards. Not that this is a huge deal because it'll work both ways of course. But the positive terminal should be on the outside so that if one needed to jump start the bike the positive terminal is accessible without pulling the battery out.


Yep that stood out to me too when I read the OP's findings.
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2012, 08:34:29 AM »
Note that I've started a new sticky thread in Accessories for a show of hands on how many would like the KIPASS BYPASS mod by Brian.  Please post there.  Thanks.

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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2012, 11:33:15 PM »
Lucky for me, my dealer is 2 miles down the road, and open until 7 tonight!  Let's hope that isn't necessary...

That dealer wouldn't happen to be the one off Hwy 70 & Zumbehl Road by chance would it?
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Re: Won't start....
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2012, 04:04:41 PM »
I really wished they would have told that to the hairbrain that plumbed my shower in the basement before I bought my home.  Darn near peeled the hide off me the first time I took a shower there!   :battle:

I don't think so, in fact this whole thing amuses me. See that is the point Clyde, some useful info. mixed in with amusement. Makes for a perfect world. The expression itself is just amusing without any particularly useful content; if you want the words rearranged, fine by me. If you want to quote sources, also fine by me and in fact, that just adds to the amusing content (Clyde is researching the factual basis of an amusing but random observation).

How about this one: The three rules of plumbing: Hot on the left, cold on the right and **** don't flow uphill. Anyone can rearrange the words or find the technical origins (if there is such a thing) while I will just chuckle at the humor embedded.

Note the three smileys:  ;D ;D ;D

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