I have used the T6 but it seemed to make the shifter a little notchy after 2000 or so miles. I switched to the regular 15-40 Rotella and it seems to perform great and the best part is that I can do an oil change with a K&N filter for under $30.
Would 20w50 be ok for a Connie?
The older Rotella 5W-40 synthetic worked pretty well for me in a C-14 but the newer stuff causes stiff, clunky shifting. The 15W-40 works better, especially when mixed with Pennzoil 10W-40 in equal amounts.
Modern oils have greatly reduced the content of ZDDP and this seems to have resulted in poorer shifting in motorcycles in general. It is also harder on flat tappet cam types although that issue is widely debated.
Adding an ounce or so of cam break- in lube brings the ZDDP content back up to older standards and makes a big difference the feel of both shifting and clutch behavior. Gives the oil a nice red tinge too that is very attractive in the sight glass....
Brian
BDF,
With the Rotella T6 would you mix in the cam break in lube also? I have ran the T6 for a while now with no clunky shifting, but I also change it at 2500.
Thanks
Both Rotella T (15W-40 dino) and Rotella T6 (5W-40 syn) are JASO MA certified. Your choice as whether you like them, but they are both acceptable for motorcycles with wet clutches.
Yes, I use cam break- in lube in any oil I use in the bike. One of the changes in the latest mix of Rotella oils has been the reduction of zinc content. Flat tappet cam engines benefit from an additive made of zinc and phosphorus in a chemical form called ZDDP. Motor oils used to contain at least 1,000 PPM and some as much as 1,800 PPM but the US gov't has requested, and all motor oil suppliers as far as I know have complied, a new max. level of 800 PPM. The zinc in the additive <can> coat a catalytic converter and render it non- functional but this is really only a problem in older vehicles with tired engines that consume oil. So I try to bring the ZDDP content back up to at least the 1,200 PPM range or just a tad more. ZDDP is one of those additives that are beneficial but can be detrimental if overused so I try not to go overboard.
It is pretty clearly not necessary as there are a lot of motorcycles (which are all flat tappet designs as far as I know) using current motor oil but it makes me happy and it also makes the bike shift considerably smoother and with less effort.
Brian
I have used the T6 but it seemed to make the shifter a little notchy after 2000 or so miles. I switched to the regular 15-40 Rotella and it seems to perform great and the best part is that I can do an oil change with a K&N filter for under $30.
Try that in usable quantities for us troglodytes.
Yes, I use cam break- in lube in any oil I use in the bike. One of the changes in the latest mix of Rotella oils has been the reduction of zinc content. Flat tappet cam engines benefit from an additive made of zinc and phosphorus in a chemical form called ZDDP. Motor oils used to contain at least 1,000 PPM and some as much as 1,800 PPM but the US gov't has requested, and all motor oil suppliers as far as I know have complied, a new max. level of 800 PPM. The zinc in the additive <can> coat a catalytic converter and render it non- functional but this is really only a problem in older vehicles with tired engines that consume oil. So I try to bring the ZDDP content back up to at least the 1,200 PPM range or just a tad more. ZDDP is one of those additives that are beneficial but can be detrimental if overused so I try not to go overboard.
It is pretty clearly not necessary as there are a lot of motorcycles (which are all flat tappet designs as far as I know) using current motor oil but it makes me happy and it also makes the bike shift considerably smoother and with less effort.
Brian
OK Brian, a little engine education for you -- when "gearheads" talk about "flat-tappet" engines, they are referring to flat-tappet engines with pushrods, VERY strong valve springs, huge valves and very radical cam lift and profiles. They are not talking about overhead cam, four-valve engines with very light, small valves, and much weaker valve springs (smaller, lighter valves -- weaker springs needed) Those engines were big-block, muscle car engines not modern, high-rpm motorcycle engines. Heavy valves and springs cause much higher wear on the cams and thus need the added protection of higher concentrations of ZDDF additives in their oil.
To eliminate valve float, either very strong valve springs are needed for large valves (2 valve engines) or small light valves that are more easily controlled at high rpm (4-valve engines), or a desmodromic valve train that doesn't have valve springs to allow valves to float.
The C14 with its lighter valve train does not need high concentrations of ZDDF or Kawasaki would have specified an oil with it. Normally you are a very logical and reasonable guy, but here you are taking things out of context.