Has ANY ONE person with a '10 or '11 model reported a KiPass problem that has REALLY turned out to be KiPass? If so can you point me at the thread? The stealership friend of mine here in tampa said they have not seen one yet on a '10 or '11 model come in for Kipass.
Not saying it hasn't happened, but somehow i suspect improvements have been made because it was a major complaint on earlier models.
Inserting it all depends on you and what postion the key might have been in.
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Well I'll chime in ,just after I purchased my 08 the stove key could spin 360 degrees. As it did this I had to fiddle sometimes for ten minutes or more to find the wandering sweet spot.
Finally one day I got it to release in FSS position put in key from fob and it worked fine (never removed it). My dealer was over an hour away so I had to slice/dice to arrange work...not wanting to lose bike for an extended period just after I bought it. In conversations it was clear to me that I knew way more than the dealer about Kipass...kudos to you all!
It turns out that it was the stove key itself..so rare that mother Kaw had it overnighted to them. Bike works great and I am in love w/a machine.
Mike
Do you mean the ign. key handle itself? If so, they are supposed to spin all the way around in case someone tries to turn the key without the ignition being unlocked (in other words, someone turning the key without a valid fob present). The body of the key will spin against the hub holding the key itself but it will work no matter what the rotation of the upper (handle) part of the key. It would look odd but it would work.Learn something new everyday-thanks Brian. So when it spins I'm guessing it will not necessarily Line up with the proper "marks" unless turned back to spot on?? And oddly enough it did only work correctly with mechanical key,maybe not odd ass it did not spin?
Or are you talking about the actually key and ignition turning all the way around? If that is what happened, it sounds like a broken ignition switch cylinder.
Brian
Learn something new everyday-thanks Brian. So when it spins I'm guessing it will not necessarily Line up with the proper "marks" unless turned back to spot on?? And oddly enough it did only work correctly with mechanical key,maybe not odd ass it did not spin?
And lastly the new key works flawlessly
Mike
Btw-Brian just when out to bike to experience this feature, interesting!
BTWW-it spun much easier before replacement though.
Plain ole ignition switches fail too. I think have a failure rate worse than KIPASS and Bob has no proof to contradict me. Bob has a right to post what he wants but to me his posts just lack that little bit of credibility and value that they would have if he was a C14 owner.
Yes, if the top part of the key is spun in relationship to the bottom part (the metal key and hub) then the direction of the key will not line up with the markings on the ign. housing (FSS, ON, etc.). It will still work and turn the correct number of degrees but it will look odd.
I wonder if you were perhaps putting the key in the wrong position because the top was misaligned? It would be a natural result of the key being rotated anything other than full turns.
As far as your original key turning easier, it certainly may have been broken. Way back in the early days of C-14s I think I remember reading about someone having a key that spun fairly freely- it sounded as though that key might have been missing a spring from the factory. Maybe your original was like that?
Brian
Very sad to see that Cap'n Bob has become just Bob and a guest.
Yes Bob, it is boring but that is just an overreaction to the masses of "KiPass Sux" posts on here from the same few people,.... over and over.
"What I find a little boring is hearing the same "KiPass is ****" over and over from the same people as soon as someone even mentions the word."
You mean it isn't boaring hearing the same bunch of people rub it in our face how good it is? How it's the answer to all problems. How it cures cancer.
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"These systems are not aimed at convenience but more at security."But is improved as now they cannot sell on the electronics. Also if the police find a parted out C14 they can ask for the provenance as Kawasaki keep a list of EVERY owner out there.
I don't buy it. Most bikes are stolen for parts. So security is very limited.
This is nothing but a convince system for people who are not thinking about their riding preparations and constantly forget to take their key out before donning all their gear. Most people should not need this. But of course there are plenty of people who do. To be fair, probably everyone has done this at least once. But I bet a lot of people have also left their fob in another jacket or in the house also. So it is not infallible.I managed for 30 years with keys but they were fiddly and inconvenient.
God I hope not.Sorry Bob but the future is already here.
Here is the update...
It was a KiPass issue. The pin was stuck in the switch. Since this is my first episode with this problem, Kawasaki will not replace the switch/housing/part. My dealer is taking it apart, cleaning it up, making sure everything fits right, and works as it should. I should have her back in my hands Friday.
I plan on taking apart the switch/housing to clean it on a semi regular basis now... prevention goes a long way to not having to deal with this again. I am glad it did this 5 miles from my house instead of a 2 weeks earlier when I was in Spearfish, SD.
So they aren't going to replace the spring with the newer, heftier spring? There is one out, you know. Do they know about that?