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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2016, 08:59:35 PM »
I work with CAN on large mining trucks.  It's how intelligent devices send commands, sensor signals and receive commands they then do something with (open/close a valve etc). Here is a super technical drawing I spent days slaving over.

You're getting comm errors from one device.  That can mean that device is dead or the wire it uses to communicate onto the datalink bus with is broken or it simply has no power.    The ECU that's throwing these codes is expecting messages from that thing every x milliseconds and for whatever reason, it's not getting them.

They COULD be right. 

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2016, 07:49:59 PM »
ETRO, P+2H. Parts expected in sometime in May.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2016, 03:52:48 AM »
ETRO, P+2H. Parts expected in sometime in May.

translation?

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2016, 05:44:12 AM »
translation?

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2016, 06:47:06 AM »
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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2016, 07:17:31 PM »
Estimated Time to Return to Operations (ETRO), Parts +2 Hours (P+2H)

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2016, 03:51:37 AM »
TFTT    GLWTR

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2016, 05:18:18 AM »
DHAC
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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2016, 02:10:49 PM »
DHAC
I'm sorry, was that clue or cow?

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2016, 06:29:29 PM »
clue..
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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2016, 06:33:46 PM »
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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2016, 08:35:31 PM »
filling
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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2016, 06:32:43 PM »
Update: the $1300  ABS pump thing arrived and was installed....and that was not the problem. Now, Big K says it's the wiring harnesses so those are on order. At this point it looks like they are throwing parts at it. All good since I have the extended warranty but I am down my main mile eater right in the middle of riding season.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2016, 09:06:45 PM »
Update: the $1300  ABS pump thing arrived and was installed....and that was not the problem. Now, Big K says it's the wiring harnesses so those are on order.

Yeah warranty coverage is nice, but it's only as good as your dealer. Be very watchful, once they get into the wiring they may change their tune and start pointing at the Rostra again, .....you know..... somehow your wiring messed up their wiring etc etc. and then there goes the warranty coverage and your $$$.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2016, 11:16:12 AM »
New wiring harnesses fixed the errors but now the speedo doesn't work which the dealer is blaming on the Rostra CC.

The dealer offered to uninstall the CC for 2h of shop labor @ $89/hr. After that if the speedo doesn't work all other work will be covered.

What do you guys think?

The bike has been in the shop for two months.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2016, 12:43:56 PM »
New wiring harnesses fixed the errors but now the speedo doesn't work which the dealer is blaming on the Rostra CC.

The dealer offered to uninstall the CC for 2h of shop labor @ $89/hr. After that if the speedo doesn't work all other work will be covered.

What do you guys think?

The bike has been in the shop for two months.
The problem with that is if they remove the Rostra and the speedo still doesn't work then they can fix the real problem and still charge you for removing the Rostra. Hmmm...what to do. They sort of have you by the short hairs here. Do you think they could leave it all in place and just disconnect it "electrically" from the bike so that if it doesn't correct the speedo problem then you or they could reconnect it? The only thing that I can see between the speedo and the Rostra is the connection to the speed sensor and I think the bike would throw a code if that wasn't working.  Do you know if the speedo does it's swing the needle thing when it's first turned on? I'm not sure where your Rostra is tied into the speed sensor, but the sensor wire goes both to the ECU and the instrument module, if the speedo isn't working but the ECU is not giving a code then I would suspect the connection between the sensor and the speedo rather than the Rostra.
Maybe the dealer can "fix" the Rostra as he originally offered (first post this thread) to do at your cost and fix the speedo under warranty when that doesn't fix the problem?  You might want to offer Brian's instructions and maybe even Fred's wiring diagram if you decide to go that way. We all know those work. Not knowing your dealer or the wiring prowess of the PO makes this difficult to help with.
It is potential problems like this that gave me pause when I installed my Rostra. I was lucky I guess, both with my install and my dealer. Best wishes, please keep us informed as you have been doing.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2016, 01:06:13 PM »
Bingo! Dealer called back and said the Rostra fried the speed sensor.

They offered the previous deal to uninstall the Rostra +$130 for the speed sensor.

The other parts will be covered under warranty.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2016, 01:10:46 PM »
Well the Rostra hasn't fried any of our speed sensors. See if instead of removing it, if they will fix the Rostra wiring like they first offered to do. It couldn't cost much more than what they want to charge to remove it.

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Re: K-ACT, KTRC error 1a, 1b, 28. Bike runs fine
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2016, 01:24:44 PM »
Bingo! Dealer called back and said the Rostra fried the speed sensor.

They offered the previous deal to uninstall the Rostra +$130 for the speed sensor.

The other parts will be covered under warranty.

I'm calling b/s on that one... the sensor is a pulse sensor... how does it fry? you aren't sending any volts to the sensor...
tell them to cut the wire you attached to the gray sensor wire, install the sensor...and when you get the bike back, re attache /splice the wires....

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