Back to the 16. Still nothing pops on google for USA, UK, Europe, or Australia. After owning a ZZR1200, with its arm wrenching feel, I would love a Concours seating position/ergos, with that same feel. Guess it will require the ZX14R's engine to deliver that. Oh well, WTF, I can't afford a new bike without digging into my retirement $'s. Guess the current 14 will have to do. A Multistrada, Diavel, Tuono, S1000R, etc would also provide that feel, but at a cost higher than a Kawi, or perhaps find a used ZX14R, and have a twofer, in the garage. tp