Paid $15,000.00 out-the-door cash back in January (27th, to be precise), and it was one of the first bikes, so supposedly harder to get a great deal. However, that included a $500 customer rebate dealers didn't advertise much because they could 'cash it in' without buyers knowing about it. Somebody posted a link, and dealer accepted it with no questions asked. Anyway, my tax was 6.25%, for price calculations. Dealers can add a crapload of junk fees, and that brought 2 deals down when attempting to buy TWO leftover 2014 models supposedly 'out the door'. Therefore, it's always better to negotiate an 'out-the-door' price, but to avoid the crap I went thru, just rephrase that with 'the amount I'm going to write a check for, including ALL fees'. If you need to sign something to that effect due to financing or something, WRITE DOWN exactly that, to avoid getting tacked on hundreds of dollars for crap dealers conveniently call part of TTL. Good luck.