LED headlight module (Cyclops Adventure)

[just gone]

I think someone just needs to experiment by getting out their microscopic soldering pencil and with changing the LEDs so that both of the top ones come on with the low beam and all four (2 top 2 bottom) come on with the high beam.

Looking at the pics on the original post of the Lamps, it looks like the circuit boards that the LED's are mounted are held to the Aluminum heat sink by a couple of screws so it looks like it may be fairly easy to rewire them so just the top LEDs come on in Low.

HeH Heh heh...and the plot thickens...

The soldering pencil is in your court Dolomoto.

[Stephen.G.Fiddes]

Not to be a *****, but projectors are currently the only right way to do a non-halogen bulb...  It's a lot of work yes, but the end result is SO much better, and less blinding to other drivers.  I know that the PNP HID kits seem to work decently in these particular housings, but if you want results, you need to do projectors.  LED technology isn't quite there yet.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18243.0

[Deziner]

I found this and thought it was interesting

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[gPink]

Hard for me to swallow 3 bills for a pair of light bulbs.

[Deziner]

I absolutely agree, I won't be buying them anytime soon. I did find it interesting that they are properly designed with proper cut-off at the top.

Years ago, when I was building off-road parts, PIAA hooked me up with newly released products and they were REALLY high quality. Since then I have purchased some PIAA products and have never been disappointed. Next week I'm going to get a pair of their Night Tech bulbs for my C14.

Another positive instance of you get what you pay for.

[jefflinde]

So i was just looking into these and there are now lots of options that light up 180 degrees for low beam and 360 degrees for High Beam.  these are on Ebay and should solve the issue many of you have spoken about.

Thoughts?

[martin_14]

So i was just looking into these and there are now lots of options that light up 180 degrees for low beam and 360 degrees for High Beam.  these are on Ebay and should solve the issue many of you have spoken about.

Thoughts?

interesting. Link?

[maxtog]

So i was just looking into these and there are now lots of options that light up 180 degrees for low beam and 360 degrees for High Beam.  these are on Ebay and should solve the issue many of you have spoken about.

Thoughts?

Welcome!

They are interesting in that they follow the correct high/low direction of illumination.  However, they appear to suffer from the same problem as the other LED modules we have seen so far- they have no built-in cut-off (shade) for the low beams.  This means they can potentially create a tremendous amount more glare than stock halogen bulbs because they through light out EVERYWHERE on one side.  Halogen (and even most aftermarket HID replacement) bulbs have a metal shade for a true and absolute control of the light.

[RBX QB]

... Wanted to install LED turn-signals, but don't want to pierce any wiring with load-resistors, so will leave them alone as well.
...

I'm a bit late to this party... but you can get a LED rated flasher relay that replaces the stocker under the long plastic under the right side of the seat. I'm running LED signals all 4 corners with this relay. No cuts, no splices. Hazards still function normally, too. This came up in another thread some months ago http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17998.msg220613#msg220613.


Back to topic... I have nothing helpful to contribute, but I'm learning a lot.

[datsaxman@hotmail.com]

jefflinde:

Yeah.  I tried a nice pair (that is for BDF...) like that, and they suck.  Yes, a technical term.  Lots of light, but not well focused.  Not even symmetrical left to right.  P O S lighting. 

BDF: FOCUS is singular...FOCI is plural.  Latin, eh?


Dat
Sax
Man

[B.D.F.]

Right- the reflectors have both, one point of focus for each type of beam, or two foci in the reflector in its entirety; hence the use of both words. Pick the one you like best but really, we only care about the focus point of the low beam in the reflector housing.... mostly.

:-)

Brian

jefflinde:

Yeah.  I tried a nice pair (that is for BDF...) like that, and they suck.  Yes, a technical term.  Lots of light, but not well focused.  Not even symmetrical left to right.  P O S lighting. 

BDF: FOCUS is singular...FOCI is plural.  Latin, eh?


Dat
Sax
Man

[VirginiaJim]

jefflinde:

Yeah.  I tried a nice pair (that is for BDF...) like that, and they suck.  Yes, a technical term.  Lots of light, but not well focused.  Not even symmetrical left to right.  P O S lighting. 

BDF: FOCUS is singular...FOCI is plural.  Latin, eh?


Dat
Sax
Man

My goodness, that sounds like me.

[datsaxman@hotmail.com]

BDF, agreed that there are plural focal points...but you used FOCI as a singular in your post.  Just sayin. 

VJ, better n being dim but focused...or lights on, nobody home, or...

[jefflinde]

this is a slightly different one than i posted a pic from but it does the same thing.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/9003-H4-Cree-Super-Bright-3200-Lumen-6500K-40W-White-Headlight-High-Low-Beam-LED-/331264613024?hash=item4d20e8daa0&vxp=mtr

[maxtog]

this is a slightly different one than i posted a pic from but it does the same thing.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/9003-H4-Cree-Super-Bright-3200-Lumen-6500K-40W-White-Headlight-High-Low-Beam-LED-/331264613024?hash=item4d20e8daa0&vxp=mtr

Yep, same problem- zero cut off/shield.  I wish they weren't allowed to sell these bulbs.   The last thing we need are more blinding vehicles on the road

[B.D.F.]

Anyone can sell them, legally, under the guise of them NOT being used in DOT approved vehicles. Same way companies can re-flash the ECU and get around those nasty EPA fines by slapping an "Off Road Use only" sticker on it. So it is really the user who is committing the offense, and it should be dealt with on an individual basis, by local LEO's on offending vehicles (speaking of lighting here; there is no way an LEO could suspect ECU alteration of course). This is where the whole thing falls down IMO- it seems that anyone can drive with anything that makes light on the front of the vehicle and get away with it. I have seen headlights so dark purple that they are useless and yet when seeing them on a car sitting next to, or across from, an LEO at an intersection, I have never seen such a vehicle get pulled over. So it seems that we have somehow made the group decision to basically allow anything for forward lighting on vehicles. ??

I understand that in Canada it is quite different and such vehicles get stopped. Maybe the Canadians are more sensitive to bright lights, eh?

Brian

Yep, same problem- zero cut off/shield.  I wish they weren't allowed to sell these bulbs.   The last thing we need are more blinding vehicles on the road

[mikeb2411]

I ended up installing HID's with projectors. I tried just HID's with the shield and they were throwing light all over the place...light was everywhere. I added projectors to the HID's and it made a HUGE difference in where the light was going. It put it "downstream" like it's supposed to be.

[B.D.F.]

Not only better as far as where the light goes but they also put out far more light from the same light source. Reflectors can only grab less than 50% of the light produced by any lamp while projectors get much more of the lamp's output (cannot remember the percentage right now but it is very high).

Brian

I ended up installing HID's with projectors. I tried just HID's with the shield and they were throwing light all over the place...light was everywhere. I added projectors to the HID's and it made a HUGE difference in where the light was going. It put it "downstream" like it's supposed to be.

[mikeb2411]

Not only better as far as where the light goes but they also put out far more light from the same light source.
Brian

The difference in the "amount" of light was amazing! I CAN NOT out ride my light at night (I guess I could but that would be scary )

[maxtog]

I ended up installing HID's with projectors.

This is what I wish I had.  But I am not willing to take apart the whole headlight assembly to do it.  Plus it would be nice if it were LED, too.  Just waiting for something to pop up one day...