LED Conversion for Concours

[Gigantor]

Does anybody know the bulb numbers for the turn signals
and rear stop/tail light?

I just installed the HID kit from SOCALMOTOGEAR and
the difference between OEM and HID is huge.

I have a 2014 Concours

Thank you in advance

[rocknrod]

The rear stop tail is LED already. Turn signals are not however.
I have searched the service manual (again) this AM and find it doesnt actually give part numbers. I wonder if there is a parts manual on these bikes?
The parts places on line call out: item 92069: as the bulb front and rear turn signals being - BULB,12V 21W - Kawasaki p/n 867622.
But this web site says they are 1157's:
http://www.jpcycles.com/2011-kawasaki-concours-14-zg1400/bulbs
But they are easy to pull out and take a look, off-set pins should be 1157.

[Gigantor]

Thanks for the info!

[B.D.F.]

As another already said the brake / tail light is LED. But you can get a really cheap, brighter LED taillight that also combines yellow LED turnsignals. They are built into the light and cannot be seen until they illuminate. Ebay has them for something like $25 or so- mine was sold for a 600 Ninja but was a direct fit. Cheap bling that may be useful- hey, at least you can yell louder at the guy who just rear- ended you (Easy Boys!), right?

Brian

Does anybody know the bulb numbers for the turn signals
and rear stop/tail light?

I just installed the HID kit from SOCALMOTOGEAR and
the difference between OEM and HID is huge.

I have a 2014 Concours

Thank you in advance

[AlanS]

Would change these to LED bulbs also require changing the flasher as well?

[Gigantor]

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/67453/i/dmp-led-flasher-relay

[maxtog]

Does anybody know the bulb numbers for the turn signals

The turn signals are yellow 1156.

I have yet to find ANY yellow LED bulb 1156 replacement that can match the brightness of the incandescent equivalent.  In my tests, they have either failed to distribute light in all directions appropriately (automatically making them useless) or were approximately 20+% dimmer.

If you can find something at least a bright or brighter... please let me [us] know, because I desperately want to change the front signals (which I have wired to be marker lights and blink OFF for turn signaling)!

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2236

[EpicBadass]

I've been wanting to convert the bulbs over to LED as well but am also concerned about light output.  One of these days I need to see how much room is in the housing as these bulbs put out more lumens than an incandescent 1156 (550 vs ~400 lumens).  BUT they are very large bulbs.  Someone try them for me ha!

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/s-series-bulbs/1156-led-bulb--single-intensity-28-high-power-led/1643/

[maxtog]

I've been wanting to convert the bulbs over to LED as well but am also concerned about light output.  One of these days I need to see how much room is in the housing as these bulbs put out more lumens than an incandescent 1156 (550 vs ~400 lumens).  BUT they are very large bulbs.  Someone try them for me ha!

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/s-series-bulbs/1156-led-bulb--single-intensity-28-high-power-led/1643/

That looks very similar to one of the several bulbs I tried.  You can't go by lumen claims, because they seem to all be just lies, unfortunately.  You also can't go by watts, because I measured those as always different from the claims.  It seems to be especially "slimy" out there regarding LED bulbs.

[Dan Forker]

I wanted to upgrade my rear turn signals because some of the people I ride with complained that they could not see the signals in the light of the day. So I tried several sets of LED bulbs from ebay and always ordered 1156 bulbs. None of the bulbs had the correct pin locations to be installed, so after returning two sets I gave up. If anyone has a solution to getting more light to the rear turn signals other than installing some aftermarket add on light I'd be interested.

Fork

[rocknrod]

I wanted to upgrade my rear turn signals because some of the people I ride with complained that they could not see the signals in the light of the day. So I tried several sets of LED bulbs from ebay and always ordered 1156 bulbs. None of the bulbs had the correct pin locations to be installed, so after returning two sets I gave up. If anyone has a solution to getting more light to the rear turn signals other than installing some aftermarket add on light I'd be interested.
Fork

1156 have pins straight across from each other
1157 have off-set pins
I'll pull mine tonight and take a pic and post it.

[Gigantor]

2011 Concours with SOCALMOTOGEAR HID system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkH3xBN4hE8

[Gigantor]

Tim from SOCALMOTOGEAR is working on providing bright
LED's for our Concours blinkers and taillight assembly

[maxtog]

2011 Concours with SOCALMOTOGEAR HID system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkH3xBN4hE8

I like the 194 LEDS you used in the "city lights".... them seem pretty bright.  But I had the same problem with those- first I want yellow (there is no point in adding additional white light), and I tried two different yellow LED 194's and both were MUCH dimmer than regular incandescent 194's.      Which are those, and are they available in yellow/amber?

[maxtog]

Tim from SOCALMOTOGEAR is working on providing bright LED's for our Concours blinkers and taillight assembly

Coolness, I am waiting anxiously with crossed fingers on that

[rocknrod]

In the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkH3xBN4hE8
Are these the 194 LED's he used?: http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led.html
Were they on that page?

Now if they could make ones for the rear we'd be in biniss

[Gigantor]

Yes 194 Cree LED

[RBX QB]

...first I want yellow (there is no point in adding additional white light), and I tried two different yellow LED 194's and both were MUCH dimmer than regular incandescent 194's.      ...

Ditto... I really like the look of amber city lights. Mine are still incandescent.

[maxtog]

In the video Are these the 194 LED's he used?: http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led.html
Were they on that page?

This one on that page looks most promising:  http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html 6 x 0.5 watt bulbs should be a lot of light, although in our application, more forward facing chips would be better because the reflectors of the city lights are small and not very effective.  Not cheap, but worth it if it really is a lot brighter than incandescent....   I bookmarked it in case they end up with a turn signal bulb to try, too...

[maxtog]

Ditto... I really like the look of amber city lights. Mine are still incandescent.

The goal is to try and look different and stand out some (while being legal).  The stock city lights are pretty much 100% useless/meaningless.  What little light they put out just meld into the headlights.  Changing the city lights to yellow/amber instantly makes a less "generic" frontal appearance.... but they are still rather dim and close to the headlights... so at a distance they meld in too (plus you can't see them from the side.. which is why I turned the front signals into running lights).   Personally I think there is little point in replacing them at all, unless it is with yellow/amber.  But some people who put in HID just want a "whiter" bulb to help match.  Meh