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Offline B.D.F.

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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2014, 09:55:22 AM »
Is it a crack or could it be a slice or cut from something? Is it only in one place on the tire or are they (cracks) all around the diameter? If the crack was in one place, did the tire sit for any length of time while the air pressure was low? For example, if you put the bike up for the winter, when breaking it out in the spring was a (or both) tires fairly low on air? If so, that might have caused a fold that causes the tire to crack.

Just thinking out loud here. The only tires I have seen do this were left for some time quite low on air- yard equipment tires for example tend to do this as they are left all winter and then in the spring, the tire is cracked or checked but we usually do not notice it so we will it up and go.

Brian

Quote from: speed545 on May 26, 2014, 05:25:46 PM
hey guys

before taking the bike for a ride yesterday, I noticed this



This is a Avon Storm Ultra tire, 3 years old and with 10000 mi on it. It s due but did not expect this

I keep tire pressure at 42-44, do not overload the bike and ride 2 up 50% of the time

Any idea
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2014, 10:36:39 AM »
I kinda agree on the low pressure storage reasoning, but only if it was flat..
The most damaging tire deterioration occurs when tires are stored near heat and electric motors, if you stored it in a garage next to a furnace or heatpump motor, the ozone will rot them fast.
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2014, 11:13:14 AM »
107th reason I'll stick with Michelins  ;D

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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2014, 03:09:12 PM »
Any angered girlfriends?
Lol...

I had a 3 month old PR2 rear last year that cracked badly in every sipe groove.
Sent it back and got credit.
I was looking closely at the one that I replaced it with yesterday and noticed it's starting to do the same thing. I have 9k miles on this one.

I have heard recently that motorcycle tire technology is several years behind car tire tech.
Beginning to believe it's true.

Sure can't tell, based on price these days!

On mine, it sits under cover, on my front porch...no direct sunlight, no heat sources.. No reason I can see.
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2014, 03:39:13 PM »
Quote from: MAN OF BLUES on May 27, 2014, 10:36:39 AM
The most damaging tire deterioration occurs when tires are stored near heat and electric motors, if you stored it in a garage next to a furnace or heatpump motor, the ozone will rot them fast.

Ozone absolutely destroys rubber, and amazingly quickly too.
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2014, 06:58:43 AM »
I only had Avon's on my C14 for 6 months but had Avon Venom and Cobra's on my Valkyrie for years. Once bought some older venom's that were stored for a couple of years, then ran them on my Valk for at least a year. Never saw a problem like this.
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2014, 05:12:05 PM »
got a response from Avon. They re willing to apply warranty on the tire even if it s a 3 years tire. I already have an appointment for a PR3 installation at the same shop who sold me the Avonj. I ll see
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2014, 06:21:26 PM »
Good job on getting the manufacturer to warranty a worn out 10,000 mile tire.
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2014, 06:27:00 PM »
Quote from: gPink on May 28, 2014, 06:21:26 PM
Good job on getting the manufacturer to warranty a worn out 10,000 mile tire.


 ;D :chugbeer:
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2014, 06:55:58 PM »
Internet search for Avon Storm delamination:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=avon%20storm%20delamination

It's a real problem. Photos and related posts on the linked thread on ADVrider.com
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2014, 07:12:00 PM »
Read a bit of the adv post. This guy was a slow learner. Not just one, or two, but three times with the same pos tire?
Hope he went out and bought a lotto ticket.
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2014, 08:54:23 PM »
Quote from: dolomoto on May 28, 2014, 06:55:58 PM
Internet search for Avon Storm delamination:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=avon%20storm%20delamination

It's a real problem. Photos and related posts on the linked thread on ADVrider.com


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Not good.  >:(

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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2014, 10:09:43 PM »
Quote from: stevewfl on May 27, 2014, 11:13:14 AM
107th reason I'll stick with Michelins  ;D



^^^^^that
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2014, 03:07:27 PM »
Quote from: ZG on May 28, 2014, 08:54:23 PM

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Not good.  >:(

+1 I used to be a fan of Avon. After seeing that, give me Michelin or give me beer.  :chugbeer:
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2014, 05:47:17 PM »
Quote from: Rhino on May 30, 2014, 03:07:27 PM
give me Michelin or give me beer.  :chugbeer:


give me both...  ;) ;D :chugbeer:
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2014, 06:12:12 PM »
+1!
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2014, 06:41:04 PM »
well
got the PR3 on. Talk to the shop about the warranty on a worn out tire He s surprised. Told me he ll see what he can do. Don't have much hope.

any way, I have a set of PR3 on and ready to go

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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2014, 07:38:34 PM »
Quote from: speed545 on May 30, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
Talk to the shop about the warranty on a worn out tire He s surprised. Told me he ll see what he can do. Don't have much hope.

How much could you really expect from Avon in that the tire did not actually fail and has 10K in miles?

Which for the heavyweight powerhouse that the C14 is that is quite good in the mileage department...
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2014, 05:56:29 AM »
Quote from: T Cro ® on May 30, 2014, 07:38:34 PM
How much could you really expect from Avon in that the tire did not actually fail and has 10K in miles?

Which for the heavyweight svelte powerhouse that the C14 is that is quite good in the mileage department...

FIFY... ;)
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Re: rear tire split sidewall
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2014, 06:06:38 AM »
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