Why do you think there are soo many newer used connies for sale

[connie14boy]

I bought mine used with 2000 miles, and almost sold it immediately again because the handling was so spooky and dangerous in low speed corners and parking situations. After reading about the crappy 021 Bridgestones, I decided to trash the tires and get some PR3 Michelins- it transformed the bike into what I call my favorite ride of all time, and 2 of my riding buddies who have ridden it have bought C-14's when they bought new bikes. They both told the dealer to change to PR3's at delivery. Someone should have a long talk with Kawasaki about tires- something so simple is probably hurting sales.

[pistole]

I bought mine used with 2000 miles, and almost sold it immediately again because the handling was so spooky and dangerous in low speed corners and parking situations. After reading about the crappy 021 Bridgestones, I decided to trash the tires and get some PR3 Michelins- it transformed the bike into what I call my favorite ride of all time, and 2 of my riding buddies who have ridden it have bought C-14's when they bought new bikes. They both told the dealer to change to PR3's at delivery. Someone should have a long talk with Kawasaki about tires- something so simple is probably hurting sales.

- yeah , agree.

- a set of Pirelli Angel STs ( in stock size ) completely transformed my C14 from a heavy poorly handling bike to a heavy good handling bike.

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[Big Mike]

I'm thinking of ditching mine..

I tried just about everything to make it more tall guy friendly, I'm just not as comfy as I thought I would be is one reason..I'm only good for a couple a hours then the knees start hurting (really not the bikes fault), I only got a couple hours out of the ZX14 before the same thing..

I'm not overly impressed with the power either, coming off an uncorked ZX14 I find myself wanting more power at times.. 

Maybe my expectations were too high who knows.. 

[manowarwi]

I bought mine used with 2000 miles, and almost sold it immediately again because the handling was so spooky and dangerous in low speed corners and parking situations. After reading about the crappy 021 Bridgestones, I decided to trash the tires and get some PR3 Michelins- it transformed the bike into what I call my favorite ride of all time, and 2 of my riding buddies who have ridden it have bought C-14's when they bought new bikes. They both told the dealer to change to PR3's at delivery. Someone should have a long talk with Kawasaki about tires- something so simple is probably hurting sales.

I bought mine used with 3000 miles and I immediately noticed the poor handling, but at first just thought it was me not being used to it.  Luckily I found this site shortly after and learned about PR3s and it was night and day difference.  I wonder how many more sales would occur, or resales be prevented if Kawi put a better front tire on them. 

[VirginiaJim]

You know, I never had a problem with the BTs.....DT's yes, but never the BT's.  In fact I thought them marvelous compared to the D205s I was running on the C10.

[maxtog]

I tried just about everything to make it more tall guy friendly, I'm just not as comfy as I thought I would be is one reason..I'm only good for a couple a hours then the knees start hurting (really not the bikes fault), I only got a couple hours out of the ZX14 before the same thing..

I am not sure any bike is going to help all that much- maybe a dual sport?  It is not like the Concours is short.  You might want to add some highway pegs or the nice in-between Ronnie's  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=6630.0   You can also install a taller seat.  Believe me, dealing with it being too "low" is a hell of a lot easier than dealing with it being too high.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13192

I'm not overly impressed with the power either, coming off an uncorked ZX14 I find myself wanting more power at times.. 

That is easier- Ghul flash 

[Cuda]

I'm thinking of ditching mine..

I tried just about everything to make it more tall guy friendly, I'm just not as comfy as I thought I would be is one reason..I'm only good for a couple a hours then the knees start hurting (really not the bikes fault), I only got a couple hours out of the ZX14 before the same thing..

I'm not overly impressed with the power either, coming off an uncorked ZX14 I find myself wanting more power at times.. 

Maybe my expectations were too high who knows.. 


Put on ZX headers with out cats , duals and a  Guhl flash down  shift  to a lower gear raceman 
Worked for me ,
Ever ride a V Rod , might work for you , I did not like my feet forward , might work for pain?
Even less power , always something?

You know, I never had a problem with the BTs.....DT's yes, but never the BT's.  In fact I thought them marvelous compared to the D205s I was running on the C10.

I put over 7,000 miles on those stock tires, the front cupped badly wore out on the sides , lots of rubber in the center,  never a problem, except on wet roads 
When I put on the P3s on I thought the bike was stiff , It did not want to lean over as easy, I like to lean a bike  way over , I like to play, swerve the bike left to right very fast , good training

[texrider]

Only move I'd make would be to one of the big adventure-tour type bikes. Guzzi Stelvio, Super Tenere, Triumph Explorer, etc.

[Big Mike]

I am not sure any bike is going to help all that much- maybe a dual sport?  It is not like the Concours is short.  You might want to add some highway pegs or the nice in-between Ronnie's  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=6630.0   You can also install a taller seat.  Believe me, dealing with it being too "low" is a hell of a lot easier than dealing with it being too high.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13192

That is easier- Ghul flash

So far I've lowered the pegs, added Heli Bar risers, taller wind screen, and had Baldwin Saddle rework the seat....Its better but still not an all day rider for me..

Looking at the BMW R1200GSW as a possible next bike but the C14 and KTM must both go for that to happen..Also have not ruled out another ZX14 I figure if I can't be comfy I might as well be fast again.. 

[eng943]

So far I've lowered the pegs, added Heli Bar risers, taller wind screen, and had Baldwin Saddle rework the seat....Its better but still not an all day rider for me..

Looking at the BMW R1200GSW as a possible next bike but the C14 and KTM must both go for that to happen..Also have not ruled out another ZX14 I figure if I can't be comfy I might as well be fast again.. 

I am in a similar position with my C14. I have done a lot to the bike, yet it still isn't something I would want to do a 1,000 mile day on.

Funny thing about speed. On long rides with my R12RT I would put a ton of distance on guys riding much faster bikes. Comfort, range, better wind protection and cruise all combined to put a big beat down much faster bikes. The K16 was the best of both worlds.

The TOURING component in a sport touring machine cannot be dismissed. I have a couple more avenues to try to make my C14 a better long distance bike before I bail on it.   

[maxtog]

So far I've lowered the pegs, added Heli Bar risers, taller wind screen, and had Baldwin Saddle rework the seat....Its better but still not an all day rider for me..

OK,  looks like you did all the right things, except adding the highway pegs.

Looking at the BMW R1200GSW as a possible next bike but the C14 and KTM must both go for that to happen..Also have not ruled out another ZX14 I figure if I can't be comfy I might as well be fast again.. 

If you look at specs like seat height, ground clearance, peg position, etc, you theoretically should be no better off with either of those....

[Big Mike]

OK,  looks like you did all the right things, except adding the highway pegs.

If you look at specs like seat height, ground clearance, peg position, etc, you theoretically should be no better off with either of those....

Highway pegs mounted on Canyon Cages were on the list but I'm up in the air on how much more money I want to spend on this thing....I'm in this far so why stop now right ?!? 

I have not dug into the specs on the BMW yet but I will test ride one before pulling the trigger which is something I didn't do with the C14 I just went ahead and ordered one.. 

Thanks for the input..

[manowarwi]

So far I've lowered the pegs, added Heli Bar risers, taller wind screen, and had Baldwin Saddle rework the seat....Its better but still not an all day rider for me..

Looking at the BMW R1200GSW as a possible next bike but the C14 and KTM must both go for that to happen..Also have not ruled out another ZX14 I figure if I can't be comfy I might as well be fast again.. 

I'm not sure of your stature, but I'm 6'2 with 34" inseam and I thought I wanted risers, but they turned out making the bike less comfortable for me.  My only issue is my behind gets sore after more than an hour straight in the saddle, but between a sergeant seat to keep me from sliding forward and a beaded seat cover to releave some of the pressure points, its not too bad.  I also just ordered canyon cages so I can put highway pegs on, but that's just because I plan on doing some 400+ mile days on a trip in August. 

[Big Mike]

I'm not sure of your stature, but I'm 6'2 with 34" inseam and I thought I wanted risers, but they turned out making the bike less comfortable for me.  My only issue is my behind gets sore after more than an hour straight in the saddle, but between a sergeant seat to keep me from sliding forward and a beaded seat cover to releave some of the pressure points, its not too bad.  I also just ordered canyon cages so I can put highway pegs on, but that's just because I plan on doing some 400+ mile days on a trip in August.

I'm checking in at 6'8 with a 38" inseam.. 

I might as well and go ahead and try the Canyon Cages and highway pegs, like I posted above I'm in this far so why stop now !

[gPink]

Big Mike, this might help your search for something that fits.
http://cycle-ergo.com/

[manowarwi]

I'm checking in at 6'8 with a 38" inseam.. 

I might as well and go ahead and try the Canyon Cages and highway pegs, like I posted above I'm in this far so why stop now !

And I thought I had issues finding tall enough bikes!  Definitely check out Cycle-ergo like gPink recommended.  You may want to sit on your bike, put your feet up and have someone take a picture to see if canyon cages / pegs would even work for you or if they'd be too short before buying. 

[Big Mike]

And I thought I had issues finding tall enough bikes!  Definitely check out Cycle-ergo like gPink recommended.  You may want to sit on your bike, put your feet up and have someone take a picture to see if canyon cages / pegs would even work for you or if they'd be too short before buying.

will do, Thanks for the help.. 

[Big Mike]

Big Mike, this might help your search for something that fits.
http://cycle-ergo.com/

Thank you sir.. 

[twowheeladdict]

Only move I'd make would be to one of the big adventure-tour type bikes. Guzzi Stelvio, Super Tenere, Triumph Explorer, etc.

That's where I am at as well.   Seriously looking at a 3000 mile ride in the near future on the Concours.  Will average 350 miles a day on two lanes for many days in a row.  That will tell me if it is a keeper or not. 

I'm thinking Super Tenere, Explorer, GS1200 Adventure, Multistrada (love everything but the chain drive).  Maybe the Versys 1000 if it comes to the states and the Vstrom 1000 when the new design hits the streets.

[PH14]

This is a really weird thread to me. I look at the craigslist motorcycles for sale section every day here in Pittsburgh and I rarely see a Concours for sale. Currently there are two, a 2004 and a 2009, so for the purpose of this discussion, only one, a 2009.

We should start a thread titled, "Why do you think there are so many used Harleys for sale?" That seems to be the majority of bikes for sale around here. I see more Concourses on the road than in the want ads, not saying it is there same everywhere, just here. I personally believe it means nothing if they are for sale or not, they just are, or aren't.