Saddlebag/seat key for passive fob question

[jamiemac]

Has anybody purchased one of these keys, that is supposed to fit in the slot on a spare fob? It has a slot for a key, but I can't find a number for it on the Ron Ayers fiche. The keys for the active fob were pretty easy to find. Not this one though. I'd like to put a key in there, and also get a standard key cut for My keyring.

[maxtog]

Has anybody purchased one of these keys, that is supposed to fit in the slot on a spare fob? It has a slot for a key, but I can't find a number for it on the Ron Ayers fiche. The keys for the active fob were pretty easy to find. Not this one though. I'd like to put a key in there, and also get a standard key cut for My keyring.

Are you saying that you are missing the key that goes in your passive fob?  I wouldn't be surprised if you can't buy it separately

[jamiemac]

About six months ago, I bought a passive fob to replace a lost active fob for My 08. When you buy a passive fob, it doesn't come with a key. I wasn't concerned about it, as it was cheap enough, so I figured I would order a key blank from ronayers the next time I ordered some parts from them. Well, after searching the fiche for a while, I'm not coming up with anything. You definitely can order the key blanks for the active fobs. They are around ten bucks. There has to be something for these passive ones. That slot isn't there for nothing, I would assume.

[Gsun]

I ordered mine through the dealer. Probably cost a bit more, but WTH.

[clogan]

Can you just get a spare made at a locksmith, then trim it with tin snips to fit in the slot of the fob? Or am I misunderstanding?

[maxtog]

Can you just get a spare made at a locksmith, then trim it with tin snips to fit in the slot of the fob? Or am I misunderstanding?

Many locksmiths will not have the correct blanks- I had a heck of a time.  As for snipping it- that MIGHT work, but I kinda doubt anyone can get that perfect enough that it would stay (snap in) the passive fob without falling out.... especially without a template.

[garfield1974]

Many locksmiths will not have the correct blanks- I had a heck of a time.  As for snipping it- that MIGHT work, but I kinda doubt anyone can get that perfect enough that it would stay (snap in) the passive fob without falling out.... especially without a template.

 

BTW this is my "passive fob" 



It took one guy about 30 seconds, original fob, and 30$ to make one.
It makes you thinking   

[maxtog]

BTW this is my "passive fob"    It took one guy about 30 seconds, original fob, and 30$ to make one.
It makes you thinking   

OK, THAT is cool   Is that a "key topper" design?   Of course, you still have to hold it directly to the receiver before you can turn the ignition key.  That is one reason you can't really put the key body (cut part) into that RFID key topper.... since you can't have it in two places at one time

[VirginiaJim]

BTW this is my "passive fob" 



It took one guy about 30 seconds, original fob, and 30$ to make one.
It makes you thinking   

Are you saying that someone ('locksmith') made a custom fob that works with this bike?  I would like more details on that if you have them?   

[jamiemac]

Either that one has the same RFID chip in it, or the guts from His Connie fob are now in the Skoda fob. Either way, pretty neat.

[gPink]

googled 'programming fobs' and got 443000 results. Didn't read them all.

[Conrad]

googled 'programming fobs' and got 443000 results. Didn't read them all.

Get on it then G! Report back once you've finished.

[Conrad]

Are you saying that someone ('locksmith') made a custom fob that works with this bike?  I would like more details on that if you have them?

A while back someone said that they found a shop that was able to duplicate the 'passive RFID' part of the fob. The cost was about the same as buying a new Kawi slimline fob so there wasn't really any point, at the time, in pursuing it. 

[Rhino]

Are you saying that someone ('locksmith') made a custom fob that works with this bike?  I would like more details on that if you have them?

Read awhile back about thieves building transponder/transceivers that would allow one person to follow an owner after leaving the vehicle and another to try to enter and start the car. The car would query a device that would transmit to another device that the follower would have which would then query the fob on the owner and transmit this back to the person at the vehicle allowing them to steal the vehicle. If they can really do that how hard would it be to clone the fob? 

[VirginiaJim]

What's working on our favor is that it's not a high demand bike for thieves...

[garfield1974]

Are you saying that someone ('locksmith') made a custom fob that works with this bike?  I would like more details on that if you have them?

Yes, that's what I am saying. 

"Skoda" cover is just a holder for chip (as this particular model is made of glass). Could be even a matchbox filled with cotton 

Blank chip + programmer device + knowledge what to do + 30$ = "key" to start an engine

Yes, I need to hold it to ignition part to start a bike, but still 30 seconds to make copy at "locksmith"   
Makes you wondering about safety of quite expensive bike, doesn't it 

[VirginiaJim]

Could any locksmith do this?

[B.D.F.]

You forgot to mention that you need a valid, working fob to start with and the new fob is merely a copy of that original, working fob. An additional fob cannot be made without an original to read the sequence from in the first place. What this is a 'work around' replacement for a Kawasaki credit card fob with the major difference being that this fob duplicates the original fob's coding sequence so that the bike does not have to be programmed to recognize a new fob; from the bike's point of view, the new fob is really the old fob.

Brian

Yes, that's what I am saying. 

"Skoda" cover is just a holder for chip (as this particular model is made of glass). Could be even a matchbox filled with cotton 

Blank chip + programmer device + knowledge what to do + 30$ = "key" to start an engine

Yes, I need to hold it to ignition part to start a bike, but still 30 seconds to make copy at "locksmith"   
Makes you wondering about safety of quite expensive bike, doesn't it 

[garfield1974]

Could any locksmith do this?

No 

[garfield1974]

You forgot to mention that you need a valid, working fob to start with and the new fob is merely a copy of that original, working fob. An additional fob cannot be made without an original to read the sequence from in the first place. What this is a 'work around' replacement for a Kawasaki credit card fob with the major difference being that this fob duplicates the original fob's coding sequence so that the bike does not have to be programmed to recognize a new fob; from the bike's point of view, the new fob is really the old fob.

Brian

 If You read carefully my first post on this subject you can notice that I mentioned that you require fob to make copy 

I agree with rest