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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2013, 10:44:23 PM »
Fusion paint inside.  Tape the edges carefully.  Easiest farkle but it will slow down an '08 by about %15 ;)

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2013, 11:07:19 PM »
I figure I'll keep the stock windshield for warmer months and the larger one for the cooler months.  I like that dark look, but the last time I tried painting my windshield was on my Ducati.  I painted the inside and it looked okay, but wasn't quite good enough for me.  I just bought a tinted shield and was happy.  If I need a smaller shield than stock, I may do that for the Kawi as well. 

I do plan to ride with the new shield before doing anything else with pegs or a new saddle.  We'll feel it out. 

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2013, 11:37:29 PM »
Riding the C14 is sweet indeed, but wait till you realize the mad pow-ah of KiPass
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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2013, 03:47:52 AM »
Here's a windshield thread that may interest you.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=914.0
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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2013, 04:55:01 AM »
Did you paint your shield Conrad, could ya share exactly what you did to get that dark?

Well, I started off trying to tint that shield using VHT Nightshades.   :-[

I was VERY meticulous in my prep and I did tape the edges as Chet suggested. As I was spraying the inside of the shield the damn spray can started to sputter (yes, I did test it first on some scrap and it was fine then) and f'ed up my nice smooth coat. I got pissed and ended up blacking out the shield with multiple coats. 
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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2013, 06:11:21 PM »
Torque and power is disappointing so far.  It does NOT feel like a 1400 to me.

Yep, the C-14 is not a speedster.  I bought it as kind of a middle of the road performance tourer.  Faster than my Road Kings, but slower that my 'Busa and ZX-10R.  But it is underpowered for a 1400cc.

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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2013, 08:23:57 PM »
Yep, the C-14 is not a speedster.  I bought it as kind of a middle of the road performance tourer. 

Middle of the road tourer compared to WHAT "tourer"?

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Faster than my Road Kings, but slower that my 'Busa and ZX-10R.  But it is underpowered for a 1400cc.

I think that is more illusion than reality.  It is quiet, smooth, and aerodynamic with great protection.  It is faster than it appears.  It is not as "peaky" as a Busa, and is not as light as a ZX-10.  The C-14's power band is flatter/broader (which is nicer for touring) and it also feels stifled due to the secondary butterflies.  One you jump over the 4K RPM hump (flies/correctable) and account for the weight, the C-14 performs very well.

If you don't want comfort, quiet, storage, reliability, and amenities then get a ZX-14 which is a sports bike.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2013, 03:21:41 AM »
A reflash changes everything down low
I even SEE MaxDog having it done
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2013, 06:29:09 AM »
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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2013, 11:38:15 AM »
But I've only had it to 5000 briefly, and typically under 4.
Hurry up & get thru the break in period, Connie just starts to wake up at 5k...& with the mods you plan on doing I think you'll notice a huge improvement.

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2013, 08:14:15 AM »
I agree with Pokey. Some of us have even cut our stock windsheilds down for more airflow during the warmer months. 



Yeah the prior owner did a great job cutting down the stock shield......I surely would have butchered it.   An absolute necessity for Summer!

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2013, 11:22:50 PM »
Middle of the road tourer compared to WHAT "tourer"?

I think that is more illusion than reality.  It is quiet, smooth, and aerodynamic with great protection.  It is faster than it appears.  It is not as "peaky" as a Busa, and is not as light as a ZX-10.  The C-14's power band is flatter/broader (which is nicer for touring) and it also feels stifled due to the secondary butterflies.  One you jump over the 4K RPM hump (flies/correctable) and account for the weight, the C-14 performs very well.

If you don't want comfort, quiet, storage, reliability, and amenities then get a ZX-14 which is a sports bike.

Since I own a BKing, which is Hayabusa-powered, I will concur that the C14 does not feel like a 1400 should; this is mostly due to the secondaries. My ZX14 felt the same way, until I pulled the secondaries, which made it feel Ike it should have from the factory. 

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2013, 12:42:55 AM »
- past 6,000 rpms , the bike seems to get plenty fast , right quick.

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2013, 09:18:10 PM »
- past 6,000 rpms , the bike seems to get plenty fast , right quick.

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The secondaries are open and aren't reducing power.  The bike should feel like that everywhere. Instead, it has a feel that is kind of similar to a turbo spinning up.

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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2013, 07:59:06 AM »
Instead, it has a feel that is kind of similar to a turbo spinning up.
I thought it felt more like a 2 stroke lol.

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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2013, 08:09:13 AM »
Congrats and welcome.
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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2013, 08:43:28 AM »
The secondaries are open and aren't reducing power.  The bike should feel like that everywhere. Instead, it has a feel that is kind of similar to a turbo spinning up.

This will help with that: http://guhlmotors.com/guts.html

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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2013, 10:20:48 AM »
Yes, I've just been too cheap to get it done, but it shouldn't even be necessary. I have no idea what Kawasaki was trying to accomplish with the secondaries. They make even less sense on a ZX14.


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Re: New Concours riding impressions, and a few questions.
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2013, 10:43:10 AM »
Yes, I've just been too cheap to get it done, but it shouldn't even be necessary. I have no idea what Kawasaki was trying to accomplish with the secondaries. They make even less sense on a ZX14.

Just a guess but I would think it is to help meet pollution and import requirements. Seems like all the FI I4 bikes have them, not just Kawasaki.

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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2013, 10:50:27 AM »
This is from a DL1000 forum:

"To answer your question, the secondary throttle system helps manage and smooth throttle response in part-throttle situations by keeping the velocity of the air/fuel in the intakes high. It's also used to partially restrict engine output in 5th and 6th gear, but this is not its primary function."