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Offline martin_14

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remaining fuel
« on: October 22, 2012, 08:50:54 AM »
I try to make the most out of every tank when I'm on a trip to minimise dead time (like while refueling) or just because I like it that way.
I know it sounds extreme but I like to refuel only when I'm running on fumes.
Now, do you know if there is any aftermarket thingy that can be fitted to a bike to tell the remaining amount of fuel in small increments for the last gallon or so?
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 08:54:19 AM »
Put your display on the miles to empty mode.

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 08:56:49 AM »
Put your display on the miles to empty mode.

I never tried that  :banghead:
Since it changes all the time I though it had mad cow decease and dismissed it ever since.
Is it that accurate (at least at reading the fuel in the tank, not calculating how much it will last)?
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 09:11:15 AM »
Keep in mind that the fuel pump lives inside the tank and is cooled by the gas inside there.
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 09:25:09 AM »
Not that I have seen but if you like taking risks then one of these may be in order
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/twisted-throttle-s-msr-30oz-fuel-bottle

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 09:25:59 AM »
Haven't heard of any aftermarket 'thingy', but I also have that same (bad?) habit.  In the interest of full disclosure, the fuel pumping through the pump is used to cool the pump (protects it from overheating, reduces wear).

So, I have  a system that I use.  I always fill the tank right to the rim (never fill it this way if you're going to park it).  I also reset the Average and trip 'A' meters.

When I'm getting low on fuel, I'll monitor the trip "A" odometer, and the Average fuel consumption display, and do the math in my head for distance to empty, based on slightly less than what I know the tank was last filled to.  I say 'slightly less' because the Average reading can mess you up if the consumption rate of the end of the tank is much higher than the majority of that tank.

For example, in US values, I know I can put 6.2 gallons in the tank.  Then, when getting low, I will multiply 6 times the Average value to recalculate my range, and compare it against the trip A reading.  The extra 0.2 gallons is left as a buffer, though on occasion I will factor it in if the consumption rate for that tank has been very consistent.

You need to be aware of the rate of consumption, because if the last gallon was all low gear / high RPM, the average will not reflect it (trust me, I know this from experience).

Most will say 'just stop for fuel sooner'.  Obviously they don't share our affliction.  Besides, where's the sport in that?

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 09:38:42 AM »
Put your display on the miles to empty mode.

That display is useless after 'Low Fuel' is displayed.   ;)
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 11:50:44 AM »
I like to refuel only when I'm running on fumes.


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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 02:01:29 PM »
The Low Fuel display can be turned off. I know it's explained in the owners manual somewhere.
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 02:38:29 PM »
The Low Fuel display can be turned off. I know it's explained in the owners manual somewhere.
Hold the top button for a few seconds then push the bottom button on the dash, but like Rob said the 'miles to empty' goes away once the low fuel indicator has been activated.

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 03:03:08 PM »
Put your display on the miles to empty mode.

That does not work on a Concours when you have triggered the "Low Fuel" warning.  What you have to do is as soon as you get the warning, reset one of your trip meters so you will know how many miles you have gone on the remaining fuel.  You can estimate how much fuel is left based on your typical MPG and that you have 1.1 gal remaining.  I always recommend you don't push it too far :)   (For example, I typically can get 42MPG with no problem, so I will start getting concerned when I have gone 20 and very nervous at 35.)
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 03:39:15 PM »
You'd be walking a lot around these parts.
:thumbs:  There's quite a few see gas/buy gas stretchs of country here in the colonys.

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 04:57:13 PM »
Keep in mind that the fuel pump lives inside the tank and is cooled by the gas inside there.


Yup, see no logical reason why pushing near fumes for that exact reason, and I think it typically takes less than 5 minutes to refuel.......yeah that is allot of wasted time.
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 11:09:42 PM »
- how accurate is the "remaining mileage" reading ?

- the reason i ask is that i find the fuel gauge (the "bars") very misleading. Eg , the "bar" may be near the bottom but when i refuel , less that half a full-tank of fuel can go in (since I know a full tank is 22 liters/5.8 gallons)

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2012, 12:43:23 AM »
good points here:
- I forgot (as I said, I don't use it) that the "remaining miles" display is useless after the low fuel warning.
- Pokey: as C1xRider put it, we don't have to drive the same way. There are good reasons why I do what I do, but it would make it a long post and it wouldn't address my question.
- cablebandit: per law, in the Autostrada (Italian highways) there's gas every 25 miles or so. In Germany can be a bit more. It always makes me laugh when I hear a European saying "I was in the middle of nowhere!". No, you weren't  ::)
- does somebody know what's the safe limit to push the range before the fuel pump is no longer submerged in fuel? That would be my limit, and (repeating my OP) I would like to know if there is any device that allows me to control accurately how much fuel I have left in the tank  :)
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 02:04:56 AM by martin_14 »
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2012, 07:56:49 AM »
There are places around here where the next gas available is 200km (120miles) so you have to plan your gas stops. Remember: the only time you can have too much gas is when you're on fire.

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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2012, 09:01:07 AM »
Remember: the only time you can have too much gas is when you're on fire.
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2012, 09:06:37 AM »
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2012, 12:51:32 PM »
My bike regularly takes 4.6 gallons just when the low fuel light comes on.  That leaves me 1.2 gallons.  Which means I am still good for 40 -50 miles depending on how I'm riding.  Most of my fill ups seem to be around 5.3 gallons or so.  Close enough for me.
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Re: remaining fuel
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2012, 01:12:02 PM »
- how accurate is the "remaining mileage" reading ?

- the reason i ask is that i find the fuel gauge (the "bars") very misleading. Eg , the "bar" may be near the bottom but when i refuel , less that half a full-tank of fuel can go in (since I know a full tank is 22 liters/5.8 gallons)

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I was riding this past weekend and refilled after 75 miles (top bar was gone on the "gauge") and it took 1.9 gallons.  Almost two gallons for the first first bar must be why the rest of the bars seem to disappear so much quicker, or the fact that I fill past the interior floor plate on the gas hole.   ;D
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