Picked up a pair of the A_stars Web Gortex today, they fit great and are plenty comfy. My local motorcycle super store had a pair on the clearance rack in my size and as a added bonus i told them about a online price and the matched that after tax for me which was $170 out the door. It was between them and a pair of icon region's, the icons were nice too but not goretex and when i tried the left foot on i accuall broke the zipper on them so that kinda made up my mind. I also picked up a pair or A_stars Radiant Drystar gloves on the clearance rack too for $35 so it was a good shopping day. Thanks for all the info and tips you guys rock.