just for closure, (Just)Cliff won the big trip... I'm the runner up if he can't go... I thank all of you that voted, and pledged money to the program to do so, and I greatly appreciate your efforts. The vote was very close, had I asked earlier, It may have been beneficial, but water under the bridge now. Many of you are longtime friends,and I know for a fact, a LOT are people that migrated here from COG... and it was very kind of all of you that voted, I campaigned hard, drawing upon all my resources of people that actually know me, I have no issues with any of that. Next time I ee ya, if you tell me you voted for me, I'll buy you a beverage... cheers.