Levis are making me crazy and annoyed. I have lived in Levis for most of my 60 years. First original shrink to fit, button down 501's and now for at least 30 years, 505 zipper jeans. But about 3 years ago some marketing genus decided that one of the oldest brands which most people would link with "simple quality" would be much better by removing 2 of the belt loops, using thinner cloth and the very best part, make the pockets 1 1/2 inches shallower. Are you fricking kidding me? That puts my cell phone right at the bend when I sit down. How much do you save in manufacturing by having 2 less belt loops and a shallow pocket when considering they still charge at least $20 more than the competition for the brand? I have now sent them 2 letters and their response is "if you think they are defective, take them back to the store".
Levis are making me crazy and annoyed. I have lived in Levis for most of my 60 years. First original shrink to fit, button down 501's and now for at least 30 years, 505 zipper jeans. But about 3 years ago some marketing genus decided that one of the oldest brands which most people would link with "simple quality" would be much better by removing 2 of the belt loops, using thinner cloth and the very best part, make the pockets 1 1/2 inches shallower. Are you fricking kidding me? That puts my cell phone right at the bend when I sit down. How much do you save in manufacturing by having 2 less belt loops and a shallow pocket when considering they still charge at least $20 more than the competition for the brand? I have now sent them 2 letters and their response is "if you think they are defective, take them back to the store".
Had Brian posted that, an "easy boys" would have been included.
You should have switched to Wranglers years ago, they've always* been the better jean. (* Jeans have a long history, always in this instance means since the early 70s when I first started comparison shopping for my own clothes . I have no idea what Wrangler's stance is on gun control, nor do I care.) I have to agree with you about customer service response, it pretty much sucks these days. I'm sure they have maybe 6 form letters to pick from to send out to the mail/email they get. I'm always surprised when I get a response that seems like someone actually read and responded to what I said rather than one that simply categorized it and sent theappropriateclosest to the subject canned response. Same thing on the phone when I get someone without a foreign accent.
You should have switched to Wranglers years ago, they've always* been the better jean.
I like Duluth Ball Room Jeans..
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/workwear/ballroom-jeans/20207.aspx?processor=content
$54.50? Wow.. there's your deep pockets right there!
I have to agree... it is all I wear; Wrangler 5 Star Premium relaxed fit. A fraction of the price of Levi's and they actually fit well, are comfortable, and last a long time. I can also even easily find them in 29"... extremely rare for other jeans. They even go on sale sometimes- even though regular price at $17 is great.
My only big complaint is that they are only available in blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, and black. I also want greens, greys, and browns. They added one color called "TM Wash" but I can't tell what it is supposed to be (I think it is supposed to be a grey) but doesn't matter because it is ONLY available in a few sizes (of course, not mine). I still have a single pair of green from probably 20 years ago, but they are just tatters now.
Can't find my Wranglers, but my Lee's aralmost the same as the Levi 505's
Lee pockets are 6-1/2" deep fronts, 6" dp rear, 3" dp watch pocket, 7 belt loops...
Levi 505's are 6-1/2" deep front and rear pockets, 3-1/2" dp watch pocket, 7 loops....
I kinda like the fit on the Lee's better...
Ride safe,
$54.50? Wow.. there's your deep pockets right there!
My old pairs of 505's measure 8.25 inches from the lowest point on entry to the bottom of the pocket. 6-1/2" sounds right for the newer 505's. Puts my cell phone right at the bend when sit down.
$54.50? Wow.. there's your deep pockets right there!