Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
By withdrawing from the Union, a state would effectively be denying someone who is a citizen of the United States their rights except by due process. The key there is "due process" and in this case, the state would need to find a LEGALLY RECOGNIZED way to withdraw. This would either be some kind of legislation passed in Congress or an Amendment to the Constitution. Anything less will ensure a civil war and no state will win such a war.
https://www.quora.com/Can-a-US-state-secede-from-the-Union
Guys, this discussion is all well and good but it ought to be it's own thread in Open. Someone please start it and continue on.
Guys, this discussion is all well and good but it ought to be it's own thread in Open. Someone please start it and continue on.
See Brian's post...just above yours. He understands. This thread is about nothing at all with a few posts on whatever subject you want to discuss. It's not a long running thread on specifics on any subject such as government. I don't mind the subject matter at all. I'm just saying it can be a thread all it's own and I think it would be better that way.
Well its just that your post came immediately after 2 posts about flags (ok 1 post about flags and one about pizzas) so it was a little unclear.
after all it had already meandered away from the Stexit posts
is there a quota system in place for how many times something can be discussed?
Is it metric or imperial?
is there a quota system in place for how many times something can be discussed?
Is it metric or imperial?
As I don't like the metric system at all, I think I'm leaning towards Imperial, but prefer the US system at the moment. But then again you left out the other system at work here.....Jim.
Besides the US Gallon which is smaller than am Imperial Gallon (which also means our pints are bigger as is anything else linked to the gallon) what other measurement differences are there between Imperial & US?
I think spoon size might be
Cloth sizes certainly are
Please can you be more specific about which discussion you're referring too as this is A Thread About Nothing At All and it keeps meandering
Actually, I think the two systems are pretty close in volume measurements such as fl. ounces, cups until it hits pints: then the big difference is that ours contains 16 ounces while yours contain 20 ounces.
The two systems are similar but there are plenty of differences, mostly small, but also we both use some extra odd units such as your 'stone' weight which is 14 lbs. Also, if I am not mistaken, you (UK) apply specific measurements to specific items being measured, again stones is used to define a human's weight but you do not buy, say, potatoes using 'stones' but rather pounds.
I believe our 'tons' are different too although it might be a matter of semantics. When an American uses the weight term 'ton' we are always referring to 2,000 lb. I believe the UK may use what we call the 'long ton', 2,240 lbs. but am not sure how you refer to it.
Our 'barrel' sizes are different also, although a 'barrel' is not a useful definition without more info.; a barrel of oil is a different size than a barrel of water, or a barrel of wine, or a barrel of whiskey..... I think.
As the story goes: the Mayflower could not wait for correct water barrels and so used wine barrels to store water for the journey to America. After arriving, they assigned UK gallon measurements to the wrong number of divisions coming out of the containers. And so that is where and how 'our' two systems started to part ways. Great story.... incorrect but still a great story.
Hat sizes in the US are something like 3/8" smaller than the UK due to the original hat blocking equipment being miss- calibrated in the US.
Clothes sizes are beyond my ability to comprehend, especially women's sizes (and girls, and junior- miss, ad nauseum) so I have no idea.
After that, most measuring metrics (not metric though) are so odd that I think everyone has to look them up; rods, chains, fathoms, furlongs and so forth are just not anything to most people remember well enough to use conversationally or scientifically.
Brian
Most potatoes are sold by the KG in the UK and have been for many years
so is most other food stuff, petrol is also sold in litres although beer is definitely Pints when sold draught although bottles are ml (or occaisonally cl)
Fenc panels are a good one as they come in either Imperial 6 ft (which are 1854mm iirc) or metric 6ft (1800mm)
Older houses with the fence posts tend to be the imperial size, newer housing stock generally has the metric size.
Same sort of thing with water pipe size .
Distance though are measure in miles and speedos are in MPH but also show KPH