Jim, why not just run the test? You have simultaneous access to both bikes and a (willing?) tester. If the nearest "closed course" isn't too far away, we'd love to hear the actual test results. My willing tester for such activities has move to OR for a couple of years, and the rest of the guys I ride with are less "scientifically inclined".
Yes, you can.... at least the old bike you could, I ran mine that way almost 30 years ago!!!
Should make it steer faster as you know, maybe drop the front 5 or 10 mm's as well.
Thanks for the compliment on tuning injection but as I remember any questions that I answered were just to confirm what you already knew!
Did you get the idle-2% throttle issue cleared-up? If so, you might think about posting what you did as it seems others have some of the same issues. Just a thought.
Have fun Roland
Fretka
Yes, I did make that much better. I'm running the fuel moto map in my c14. PCV, files removed, and a Leo Vince slip on. I was gettign a flat spot in tha tidle-2% range, at 1500-2000 rpm. Just like a too lean pilot jet...which it basically was.
Fuel Moto was not much interested as they said this was lugging the bike. I see that, except you do have to get through that rpm range every time you ride the bike...
You taught me how to read the dynojet table. I noticed the fm map was taking away a lot of fuel in that exact range. I did what you suggested and added back in 5% in that range. The flat-spot decreased 90 percent when the bike is cold, and is gone when the engine is warm.
Now, the Ninja has what feels like a perfect map. BUT, the idle appears to have an automatic fast idle for about the first 1 minute after starting the engine. I've not felt that with the c14.....
My Concours is a 2008 abs model. Stock, except for the fly removal and LeoVince slip on. PCV as well, but nothing serious. I almost posted that I wished my Ninja had abs, but hate to open that can of worms. I know Kawasaki brought them in this year with abs, but I never saw one.
OK. I have been wondering if anyone with a 10 or newer Concours had a PCV on it (because of the "eco" mode on the newer ones).
I agonized over whether to get an ABS or not as I swore I would never buy another bike without it. But I liked the 2011 black ones and there were plenty of them available, and I rationalized that I mainly care about ABS in the rain and would seldom ride the Ninja in the rain. So much for that, in the past two weeks I've ridden it twice in the rain.
LOL...I could have made this post. Plus, I was caught in the rain this morning...on the non abs Ninja.
Its not rained here for at least 6 weeks. The last week was over 100. I buy the bike. I was nto abel to ride it home, even, since I was on call at work.
I did ride 50 miles total, but it was tough to find the time. Then my 8 year old granddaughter moved in with us...which is wonderful and this has truly been my dream come true. So no complaints about not riding today. The instant my wife made it home today, it started to rain, and is supposed to for the next few days. So, since no riding, I decided to install the Muzzy fender eliminator
I installed my Muzzy fender eliminator tonight and it looks much better and is a well made part. However, wire routing was a nightmare. The subfram eon the Ninja 1000 is a work of art. I've never seen a subframe with this much technology in it. It reminds me of a Cannondale bicycle frame in quality.
Its a cast piece and every square inch of it has been utilized. There's even a cast hollow area to hold the tool kit and it woudl even hold extra tools. A person coudl probably fit two 12 oz sodas in there as well as the toolkit. I had mine put together by the time I thought of it, but heres a picture of one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-1000-ZX1000-Rear-sub-frame-subframe-under-seat-section-/271008393228?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f195be80c&vxp=mtr
My granddaughter does like the ninja. She bugged me all day to "paint my fingernails" since she said she had an idea for a design. I let her do one finger as it was already smashed and purple....
I have not ridden a Concours set up like yours, but I cannot even fathom that the Concours could have more response than the Ninja. No need talking about how much torque there is because that is only a part of it. Lighter weight and gearing make up a huge amount of why the Ninja is more responsive. I have not tried it, but I would bet money that in a 60mph roll on, my Ninja (even stock) would pull away from the Concours in sixth gear even if I downshifted the Concours to fourth. The guy I ride with agrees. I would not think that any mods to the Concours short of a turbo would make up the difference.Ninja 1000 1/4 mile time 10.81
It's a nice conversation to have between the two bikes though, isn't it