Got it, Thanks.
While you're in the mood, is GIVI (as in top case) pronounced "Giv-ey" or "Jiv-ey" That is hard g, short i, long e; vs soft g, short i, long e ? ..or something else altogether?
Got it, Thanks.
While you're in the mood, is GIVI (as in top case) pronounced "Giv-ey" or "Jiv-ey" That is hard g, short i, long e; vs soft g, short i, long e ? ..or something else altogether?
I said prior in this thread Angel GT's. Well I was forced to try PR4's as the Angel A Spec's are all on back order until November and there was no way I was going to keep the OEM rubber with a plug in the rear on for that long. So coming from the Angel GT A Spcs's to the PR4's I'm not impressed. The Angel's fall into corners. It's effortless cornering and extreme confidence. The PR4's don't do that. You need to put much more effort into the cornering. The confidence part I really haven't had a chance to test yet on the slab ride home.
Same size? You said PR4, not PR4GT, which did you get? And how are you comparing the Angel GT A to the PR4 if you are coming off the "OEM rubber"? [update for last question: I see previous post, so you were only changing the rear]
I ran Angel GT A Spec on my 2012 before I traded it in for my 2015. So yes I have 43,000 miles of Angel GT experience. I would never just change a rear. Especially if I'm running OEM. I changed both front and rear.
Generally, the turning effort is mostly about the shape of the tire (assuming one hasn't changed the suspension, tire pressures, and the sidewalls are not deforming, etc). Nothing about how sticky the tire is, how well it rides, how well it wears, how well it sheds water, etc. If the tire comparison is between two identical sizes (with same sidewall strengths), then only shape remains... and that generally doesn't seem to change much between models and manufacturers. Tire pressure can also greatly affect tire shape, so make sure that is correct when comparing (42PSI).
I run all my tires at 44 to 42LBS. As you know with the C14 it loses air over time. I always put in 44 and when I get to 42 I bump it up again.
Worn tires, no matter what model or size, will generally have greatly different cornering effort and behavior than a new tire (of any sort)... mostly because the wear changes the shape. It is typical (at least based on my experience) that the center will wear out first (flat spot), making it resistant to cornering (lots of effort), and then suddenly very squirrely (as it rides on the transition step), and then easier (as it finally falls over the step and rides on the original less-worn shape).
Oh BTW before singing the praise of the PR's have either of you tried the Angel GTs?
I haven't. So I would never dismiss or criticize the Angel GT's. I *can* sing the praise of the PR4GT compared to the OEM and other tires I have used on other bikes, but my experience is, indeed, limited.
I was simply pointing out that comparisons can be complex and why.... and that typically the "easy fallover cornering" is a shape function that can be affected by things other than just the design (like suspension, load weight, sidewall strength selection, tire pressures) which need to be held constant.
Reading on a BMW forum about cupping issues on the front Michelin PR4 GT tyres with the heavier BMW's. Interesting.Anyone having these concerns with their Kawasaki's?
I recently cut a section out of my old rear PR4 GT (50 series) just to see how much rubber was between the cord and the road when that tiny center sipe goes away.
What is not shown in the photo are any of the center wear bar indicators, unfortunately. I will assume that they are/were worn flat/even (or you would not have replaced the tire).
Dang, Maxtog, what do you weigh? About 90#'s?
That's amazing to see @ 14,200 miles. I'll be shocked to see 8,000 from my new PR4 GT's, but I can hope!