Last night was my rod and gun club's monthly meeting. The meeting is called to order and everyone faces the flag and recites the Pledge of Allegiance. I would guess the group size at between 150 and 175 people. I took careful count and can report with confidence: number of people doing anything other than standing straight: 0.
Now you may say that that was a bit of a 'stacked deck' and there <may> have been an over- representation of conservatives there (cough, cough, choke, dies). But hey, as I said, I just wanted to throw some of the more stanch conservatives here a bone- not everyplace that sings the anthem or pledges allegiance has anyone taking a knee.... :-)
I find that reassuring. Many overly conservative groups ("overly" here, means most members are conservative, not that it is too conservative) think that the government is coming to take their guns, and a pledge of allegiance would be low on the priority list.
Not trying to take the bone away, but rather just informing, my union meetings started each meeting with the pledge of allegiance to the U.S. flag and to the republic for which it stands. Everyone stood up, but I retired 6 years ago so I'm not sure how many are still standing at meetings.
I do not think a group such as Neo Nazis would find this group full of 'likely prospects'.
Brian
No disagreement with that statement but I always find it interesting when people associate nazi with the far right and communist with the far left when in fact they are both forms of totalitarian socialism with very little practical difference between them.
....I always find it interesting when people associate nazi with the far right and communist with the far left when in fact they are both forms of totalitarian socialism with very little practical difference between them.
I've always said that it's not a line, it's a circle. Hmmm, I've also said that I'm at the bottom of the circle. I am rethinking that now however, 'cause if the nazis and the commies are down there rubbing up 'gainst each other...then I need to be somewhere else. Dog gone it Rhino! ..you got me thinkin'...and here I was assuming I had today off.
A fellow by the name of TJ Rogers (founder and CEO of Cypress Semiconductors) gives speeches and uses the the circle analogy to describe how far right and far left are mostly the same.
People tend to define themselves.
Last night was my rod and gun club's monthly meeting. The meeting is called to order and everyone faces the flag and recites the Pledge of Allegiance. I would guess the group size at between 150 and 175 people. I took careful count and can report with confidence: number of people doing anything other than standing straight: 0.
who defined the left , right & middle anyways?
Remember, only a zealot likes another zealot, and I find that to be personally true...
I will stand, but change the words I say to:
"I pledge respect to the flag of the United States of America...."
"I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America...."
Because I will NOT pledge my allegiance to a "flag" nor a state [in whole] of any kind, it goes contrary to my beliefs as a free citizen in a free country. I believe that no free state should demand or expect allegiance to itself. I will, however, pledge my allegiance to the Constitution, a document that I revere, respect, support, and follow.
Means different things to different people. A 1 dimensional scale to describe an "n" dimensional idea. Actually pretty stupid.
Just kidding 'max.
..so how does that work?
Do you work those both in?..or ...do you randomly pick one or the other to substitute in.
I actually like your thought process there. If I said the pledge more often, I might have to adopt that, I especially like the second one.