EXTREMELY happy with my last JDM AStar LED city lights. FINALLY brighter than yellow incandescent!
I've read about your frustrations with LED brightness. Are you saying that there is an LED City Light out there that you prefer to incandescent?!? What do you have? I still have time to upgrade those too!
This may be hard to believe but is worth a look: No Load Resistor LED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwjtMmGJN3M
that guy is so bloody annoying!!
that guy is so bloody annoying!!
You can say that again. Anyway, I wouldn't buy them because I would expect their life to be much shorter. Might be OK for a turn signal, since it is on so rarely... but marker lights and tail lights, no.
I've read about your frustrations with LED brightness. Are you saying that there is an LED City Light out there that you prefer to incandescent?!? What do you have?
But you did make the leap to LED City Lights, right?
You can say that again. Anyway, I wouldn't buy them because I would expect their life to be much shorter. Might be OK for a turn signal, since it is on so rarely... but marker lights and tail lights, no.
Yeah, he is. Painfully annoying. I also get annoyed with myself for falling in line with the next, latest, best, new/improved gadget that promises to make my life easier and is sooooo much better that what I already have in my hand. Maybe the next, best thing in lighting is just what I need!!! Maybe not. Probably not. I am thankful I'm not riding around with a gaslight!
And turn signals
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0 Been great for almost 2 years now.
You would probably feel a LOT better if you could comfort yourself with a ShamWow. Have you heard of them?
Brian
...but wait ...there's more!
I think I need to pay attention better, or change my meds, or both. I thought that the electronic turn signal relay negated the need for load resistors when making the switch to LED turn signals, all four "bulbs" (or two on the same side). There would be no "Hyper-Flash". That's what I was lead to believe as far as the electronic relay is concerned. Now it seems to me that the circuit still requires an incandescent bulb in the circuit to provide the required resistance to ground, otherwise a parallel load resistor needs to be in the circuit if LED's are used exclusively for turn signals.
My understanding is that the hyper-Flash is a function of the monitoring circuitry (provided by the KIPASS ECU) as it is designed to detect turn indicator issues and warn the rider/driver. Typically (prior to the advent of LED use anyway) the problem is a burnt out incandescent bulb which the monitoring system sees as a very high resistance in the circuit. The ECU then pulses the KIPASS signal relay faster to indicate a problem. The monitoring system "sees" a reverse biased LED as an open circuit too so it issues a false hyper-flash. Also, if LED's and load resistances are installed then the monitoring function is essentially bypassed and the rider will not receive an indication of a bad LED turn signal.
The City Lights are not monitored by KIPASS as far as I can tell so a direct replacement (sans resistor) is OK.
So, I am unclear as to what I need to do with my turn indicator mod. If I want LED on front and rear turn indicators I think I will need at least one parallel resistance installed to satisfy the monitoring circuit.
I think I'm going mad now.
I don't recall seeing a bulb failure warning system on the GTR ?
Yes you have the L&R telltales but they work even if the system starts hyperflashing
I think I need to pay attention better, or change my meds, or both. I thought that the electronic turn signal relay negated the need for load resistors when making the switch to LED turn signals, all four "bulbs" (or two on the same side). There would be no "Hyper-Flash". That's what I was lead to believe as far as the electronic relay is concerned. Now it seems to me that the circuit still requires an incandescent bulb in the circuit to provide the required resistance to ground, otherwise a parallel load resistor needs to be in the circuit if LED's are used exclusively for turn signals.
My understanding is that the hyper-Flash is a function of the monitoring circuitry (provided by the KIPASS ECU) as it is designed to detect turn indicator issues and warn the rider/driver. Typically (prior to the advent of LED use anyway) the problem is a burnt out incandescent bulb which the monitoring system sees as a very high resistance in the circuit. The ECU then pulses the KIPASS signal relay faster to indicate a problem. The monitoring system "sees" a reverse biased LED as an open circuit too so it issues a false hyper-flash. Also, if LED's and load resistances are installed then the monitoring function is essentially bypassed and the rider will not receive an indication of a bad LED turn signal.
The City Lights are not monitored by KIPASS as far as I can tell so a direct replacement (sans resistor) is OK.
So, I am unclear as to what I need to do with my turn indicator mod. If I want LED on front and rear turn indicators I think I will need at least one parallel resistance installed to satisfy the monitoring circuit.
I have a two wire electronic turn signal flasher, and LED turn signals front and rear and all works well with no load or ballast resistors of any kind. I can not detect any monitoring circuitry in the wiring diagram. The closest that the KIPASS comes to monitoring the system is that it controls the ground circuit to a relay coil that makes the "KIPASS FLASH" when you turn the ignition on or off. It would have no way of knowing if any of the bulbs are burned out or even in the socket as all it does see is the relay coil, not the circuitry that the coil causes to be energized. You may be getting off track by some of the things max' is saying about the LED lights hawked by the annoying guy mentioned earlier.
However if we could get back to your bike and it's....ahem... "stator problem", let me see if I can summarize where we are (or do I need to pay attention better or get back on my meds?)
(1)The light circuits are all good now but just need bulbs or LEDs (correct?)
(2) there are still ABS codes present that will not clear or are continuing to be reset after clearing?
(3) The speedometer still doesn't work when the bike is moving but it does during the initial start up of the ignition on.
(4) We have concluded that there is not really a problem with the stator and it seems to be supplying power to the bike and charging the battery (correct?)
(5) Other than the above mentioned problems are there any that I missed or is everything else OK?
If I'm correct about (4), Tree, would you consider going back to your first post and adding a "(not really)" to the subject line right after "Stator Problem?" so that someone a year from now doesn't go all through this thread looking for stator information and end up replacing their turn signal bulbs in hopes of rescuing their stator?
I think I need to pay attention better, or change my meds, or both. I thought that the electronic turn signal relay negated the need for load resistors when making the switch to LED turn signals, all four "bulbs" (or two on the same side). There would be no "Hyper-Flash".
Now it seems to me that the circuit still requires an incandescent bulb in the circuit to provide the required resistance to ground, otherwise a parallel load resistor needs to be in the circuit if LED's are used exclusively for turn signals.
My understanding is that the hyper-Flash is a function of the monitoring circuitry (provided by the KIPASS ECU) as it is designed to detect turn indicator issues and warn the rider/driver.
So, I am unclear as to what I need to do with my turn indicator mod. If I want LED on front and rear turn indicators I think I will need at least one parallel resistance installed to satisfy the monitoring circuit.
OK. I am now waiting very impatiently for the Amazon Delivery. I got something very cool on the way from Kriss Industries too. I'm not gonna say what it is until I install and test it. I got enough egg on my face already.
Thanks for the clarity Max.