Some interesting alternatives that I haven't seen discussed here such as "not naming the shooter" and "having 2 doors in every classroom"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43118865
There was one of these instances where the local officials refused to use the name of the perpetrator, with the thought of not providing him any kind of gratification. In the big picture, turning these people into pariahs, socially, which they SHOULD already be but somehow do not seem to quite 'make it' would be one of the most beneficial things for everyone IMO.
The 'big picture' is that if a society finds some particular behavior reprehensible then very little of it will actually happen because no individual wants to be 'that' person. This is apparently common in Japan for example, where person hygiene, grooming and general care (especially not being over weight) is considered unacceptable actually works to prevent people from doing or becoming those things.
But it just does not seem that the people who perpetrate these types of horrible social incidents ever get quite to the level of 'horrible human'. And I have no idea why this is. ??
And it does not seem to be an unusual situation in the western world either.
All of that to say that I think it would be of huge benefit and might actually go a long way to eliminate the root of the problem (if no one wanted to be 'that person' who did that horrible thing) but have no idea of how to get an entire society to behave / think that way.
Brian
Maybe policy of not naming for a month then go for a full blown name & shame?
I thought the 2 doors idea had merit.
Ok wouldn't prevent but might help mitigate
sanmo...which of the following statements do you find most applicable..
A stranger is an enemy until proven to b a friend.
A stranger is a friend until proven to be an enemy.
Statement 2 for sure. You have to be in the first category to advocate concealed carry or open carry of guns. I'm assuming this psych profile is related to the gun debate.
sanmo, you have absolutely no idea how we who advocate for concealed carry think. When Gary posted that question to you I wondered how you would answer. I answered the same as you ... yes, statement #2 is how I look at things.
I bet that most of us on this forum who are CC permit holders, and most in general would answer the same.
You really have no idea at all how we think!
Knowing everybody is on edge from the Parkland shootings, what (if anything) should be done with the owner of this?
Standard issue US military magazines are 30 round. Different AR's are sold with different magazines, often MAGPUL plastic magazines of 20 round capacity.
As you pointed out, magazines are available in many different capacities. But the 30 round is most common, by far.
At this time, there is no US federal limit on magazine size anyone can possess or use.
There are also 'oddball' magazines, often rotary, that can and do have much more capacity. But I do not know of any '50' round magazines and I do not believe there are any '60's either. That said, I am not aware of ANY nefarious uses of any AR with the 'oddball' magazines, all that I have see from photographs have been the ubiquitous 30 round, metal, <probably> standard issue magazines.
Our associate (in this conversation) is simply throwing numbers out in his ignorance, believing accuracy not important so '50' and '60' sounds better as a 'sound- bite' than 20 or 30. My point was that there is absolutely no reason to engage him / her on this topic and start doing math with other firearms magazines nor compare what other firearm magazines may hold, how long it takes to change them and so forth. Put simply, this gentleperson is throwing out snippets he / she has picked up from [often also badly informed] news outlets, and he / she is no longer discussing anything, merely taking potshots (pun intended).
But, as always, it IS a free country and all are of course free to go down any verbal path, the gentleperson specified also of course. Carry on.
I do believe the original topic was the tragic high school shooting in Florida on 14 Feb. 2018
Brian
stock up on these....
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ar15-m16-100rd-dual-drum-mag-gen-2-tan
AR style...
also available for the Mini 14
temporarily out of stock... wonder why?
https://www.classicfirearms.com/mini-14-100rd-dual-drum-mag-for-all-ruger-mini-14-rifles
and of course the "old standby"
https://www.classicfirearms.com/75-rd-rear-loading-ak47-drum-mag-korean
I know they are available, but I was pointing out that 1) that is not the norm., either on the range or in a mass shooting and 2) have you ever seen any drum type magazine used in a mass shooting?
It was probably more the norm in the roaring twenties
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/us/aurora-gunmans-lethal-arsenal.html
The drum type magazine used in the Aurora, CO theater shooting.
sorry
I was adding this to my original post,
when you posted
oh, they have been used in nefarious events.... like Aurora... but the mag jammed....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting
But mind you, I am all about others not saying I can't own a gun based on it's color, or manufacture, or it's capacity...
I enjoy my firearms....
Some interesting alternatives that I haven't seen discussed here such as "not naming the shooter" and "having 2 doors in every classroom"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43118865
sorry
I was adding this to my original post,
when you posted
oh, they have been used in nefarious events.... like Aurora... but the mag jammed....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting
But mind you, I am all about others not saying I can't own a gun based on it's color, or manufacture, or it's capacity...
I enjoy my firearms....
I'm glad we think alike in that matter and in our choice of bikes. To help educate me, why do you have a CC permit and presumably carry a gun?