If the "low" temp is the issue, then will a new sensor solve the problem? I think not unless they have a completely redesinged unit for replacement. Or is the low voltage of the battery in sensor exacerbated because of the low temp? Either way, technically it's not a defect IF the sensor turns on at some point and especially if it definitely is only related to low temps. I've had mine do the same thing on a REALLY chilly morning but it "came to" within a few minutes and it hasn't been that cool since.
I know, it's annoying but it's not a game stopper.
Call me devils advocate if you want.
Hey Bob, I'm not laughing with you....
Even Kirby is shaking his head and he is hard to impress.
Brian
My dealer didn't even look at my low battery warning before they called Kawi to get my replacement approved. Now I just need for the dealer to figure out how to get the sensors to communicate with the bike. I bet one of you on here could tell me what my dealer did wrong.
The service manager mentioned that they have to re-flash the ECU as part of the process of replacing the sensors. Will that re-flash effect my PCV? I can unplug it before it goes in the shop, but I'd rather not take the fairing off if I don't have to.
The service manager mentioned that they have to re-flash the ECU as part of the process of replacing the sensors. Will that re-flash effect my PCV? I can unplug it before it goes in the shop, but I'd rather not take the fairing off if I don't have to.
The dealer needs to program the KiPass ECU to recognize the new sensors. There is a number on the sensor that the dealer will need to program into the KDS software and of course, into the bike. If the dealer did not write that number down before installing the sensors they will have to take off the wheel(s), break the beads and take off at least one side of the tire to gain access to the sensor and then write down the number. It is a common oversight.
Brian
They wrote down the id numbers but they couldn't get their computer to communicate with the ECU. They are supposed to be calling Kawi tomorrow and hopefully will have my problem fixed this week before my long ride this coming weekend. If they can't do it I won't loose any sleep, but it would be nice to have everything in tip top shape.
BDF, I absolutely agree that while under the warranty period (or extended) that this detail (and all other valid issues) should be taken care of without hassle and with a smile. But I'm thinking that perhaps this unit's design parameters are going to exhibit the same behavior and this is perhaps what they are now starting to realize, thus the perceived change on how they are changed out. While I really like this feature I will not pay $300+ to replace them when I'm out of warranty, but I might just try to solder in a new battery, and if that doesn't work then again it won't be a game changer for me.
But, the big variable here seems to be the dealer that calls it in, just how he describes it and evidently the other factor is who the dealer rep talks to at mama Kaw. And just maybe the "status" of the dealer that calls it in comes into question as well, as I do know that some dealers are flagged as "dubious" when they fail to follow warranty policies properly (holding the faulty parts for X amount of time, for one example). At least that is what Bill at American Honda told me during the last century.
I don't know about you guys, but my sensors have to put up with A LOT of centrifugal force and frankly I'm amazed at how well they work considering the forces they are subjected to, extreme heat, crazy cold, ridiculous bumps, major whallops, small animal impacts (and not so small), etc.
They probably are worth every penny.
I replaced my original Bridgestones (only 7500 miles)
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But, the big variable here seems to be the dealer that calls it in, just how he describes it and evidently the other factor is who the dealer rep talks to at mama Kaw. And just maybe the "status" of the dealer that calls it in comes into question as well, as I do know that some dealers are flagged as "dubious" when they fail to follow warranty policies properly (holding the faulty parts for X amount of time, for one example). At least that is what Bill at American Honda told me during the last century.
I absolutely agree, on this board we've seen everything from my experience with mama Kaw saying "that's normal" to Jeremy's experience with the service manager not even seeing the malfunction before he replaces the sensors.
If the "low" temp is the issue, then will a new sensor solve the problem? I think not unless they have a completely redesinged unit for replacement. Or is the low voltage of the battery in sensor exacerbated because of the low temp? Either way, technically it's not a defect IF the sensor turns on at some point and especially if it definitely is only related to low temps. I've had mine do the same thing on a REALLY chilly morning but it "came to" within a few minutes and it hasn't been that cool since.