I decided to give it a shot making a key for my 2018 C14. I am a locksmith and have been for 37 years. Stopped doing automotive stuff long ago, so I had to have the young guys help me out.
I read my passive fob with the key reader. It told me to use a TPX5 glass chip. We wrote the chip and it works exactly like my passive fob. Then I ordered a JMA TPOOKAW-9.P1 key blank without transponder chip. My bike uses a "B" key. I cut the key from my existing passive fob and inserted the chip.
I now have a key that operates my bags and gas cap and will also start the bike with the stove knob. It will not replace the stove knob as the bike's antenna isn't big enough to read the chip that far away.
I took a picture of all the bits and pieces. If anyone wants to post it up, send me a PM with your email address and I'll forward it to you.
So you can press the stove knob down and the bike can communicate with the key as you are sitting on the bike without using the rf backup?
I decided to give it a shot making a key for my 2018 C14. I am a locksmith and have been for 37 years. Stopped doing automotive stuff long ago, so I had to have the young guys help me out.He can use the key to open stuff, and he can use it to get the LCD to light up as he would a passive fob, he can't just leave it in the stove knob position and start the bike, he needs a second key to already be in the stove knob position. It doesn't act as an active FOB.
I read my passive fob with the key reader. It told me to use a TPX5 glass chip. We wrote the chip and it works exactly like my passive fob. Then I ordered a JMA TPOOKAW-9.P1 key blank without transponder chip. My bike uses a "B" key. I cut the key from my existing passive fob and inserted the chip.
I now have a key that operates my bags and gas cap and will also start the bike with the stove knob. It will not replace the stove knob as the bike's antenna isn't big enough to read the chip that far away.
I took a picture of all the bits and pieces. If anyone wants to post it up, send me a PM with your email address and I'll forward it to you.
Here's the pic.
I also do not use the stove knob for anything other than the stove knob. I have always carried a non-chip key in my pocket for operating the luggage and fuel tank. (This may not be the way YOU like to do it, and anyone telling me they like to do it different is welcome to their opinion and not likely to change mine.)
I never take the stove knob out and I had a spare key made to operate everything else. I'm just wondering why you went through all this to duplicate something that's already there. The FOB has the RFID as well as the credit card. I guess it could be a backup if you lose the FOB and the credit card, though. My FOB never sees the light of day and is attached to a chain (in my pocket) that is looped into my belt so it can't be lost.
I love my standard, no fuss keys which can be duplicated for a few bucks.
Which is great for the bags and gas cap, but that is it. No modern vehicle (that I know of, at least for cars) actually use non-RFID [plain-old] keys anymore for when it comes to starting the engine.
I never take the stove knob out and I had a spare key made to operate everything else. I'm just wondering why you went through all this to duplicate something that's already there. The FOB has the RFID as well as the credit card. I guess it could be a backup if you lose the FOB and the credit card, though. My FOB never sees the light of day and is attached to a chain (in my pocket) that is looped into my belt so it can't be lost.
Which is great for the bags and gas cap, but that is it. No modern vehicle (that I know of, at least for cars) actually use non-RFID [plain-old] keys anymore for when it comes to starting the engine.
Well, the simple answer is, I was a Boy Scout.
Reality is, I don’t have a problem with the key head being large. I have it on a ring with the remote fob for my house alarm.
I don’t pay for keys. A perk of my job. I’m the service manager for the largest locksmith company in the province. I’ve worked there 37 years. I don’t get too many arguments about what I do. We also have sister companies in the alarm and alarm monitoring and access control business. I’m pretty well hooked up for this stuff.
I hid my spare passive key on the bike and carry a spare 'flat' key in my wallet. Guess where I hid my spare passive thingy?
No but I guess you could put it there, hidden under the seat.
Hmmm.... one of the panniers!
I totally got what you were saying, and in my explanation for Jim, reiterated the scenario, I don't mind the size on the new chipped key either, and my statement about having 2, as one for the ignition, one to place against the "sensor bump" makes perfect sense.... to me at least... for an Instance of say, someone gooches your stove knob in a parking lot... you then have a 'spare key' for whatever...
my own choice, if I was going to have a spare "key" cut, would be to toss in a chip and clone it, as the cost for both is soo cheap, in reality... when I get my blanks and chips, I'll probably make 4 or 5, chipped cloned keylock keys... because it's like ...."why not?" in my thinking.