mike, I should try the Kawasaki Touring seat.... it's that good...even my pillion agrees.
One other thing to consider is warranty comparison between brands.True. When I retired, I was considering a new BMW. The mechanics were insisting on buying the $1500, five year unlimited mileage warranty. Then I came across my Sergeant’s C14...
Sorry, Poseidon, I wasn't implying you were saying anything against my awesome and sick ability to install my own cc ! I was just saying I would do it because I could and I enjoyed it...as twisted as that sounds ! And, your story, along with those from others, make BMW a scary choice! But, my only 2 choices will be the C14 or RT, not sure I am ready for the Adventure bike, and nothing else out there appeals to me, and the Concours still has my heart! Here's my ONLY hesitation on a new C14, THE SEAT! I had the 2012 and went through 4 different seats and nothing could keep me on that bike all day and be comfortable...I was sore! With the Triumph Trophy, and the optional Triumph comfort seat, ALL DAY COMFORT and then some! The seat on my Trophy is sooooo good it's ridiculous! I feel the BMW RT would offer similar comfort as does the Trophy and that is why I even lean in the direction of the RT...comfort! Just like the RT's maintenance and ownership costs scare me, the comfort, or lack of, on the Concours scares me! I did a 10 day, 5k mile road trip on my C14 and was SORE. I could do that same trip on my Trophy and never want to get off the bike...could literally ride it all day, every day, with ease! So you can see my dilemma!
no, it's a completely new one, released in 2015 I believe. I bought it 2y ago, sold my Sargent, never looked at anything else. I will get you a Kawasaki site link
https://www.kawasaki.com/accessories/item/2016-concours-14-abs/touring-seat/ZG1400EGFL/999940500
Best way to describe the early seats is like sitting on a slanted, banana skin covered two by six that used the gas tank for a stop so you didn't slide off.
I've read that Kawasaki changed the seat in 2015 I believe. Must have been a big improvement because I have also read where lots of guys complain about the stock seat on the older bikes.
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I dropped my Trophy off yesterday to get it repaired under warranty and they had a brand new 2018, no miles, Connie on the floor for $11,8k...
I dropped my Trophy off yesterday to get it repaired under warranty and they had a brand new 2018, no miles, Connie on the floor for $11,8k...I was so tempted to sit down and deal right then and there but I want to wait a year and get the Trophy paid down...then it'll be time! Also, I spoke with the guys I know at the shop and they seem to think there is no plan to discontinue the Concours, so I really do hope they are correct!