And how would someone know that by looking at it?
Solid state electronics are current- direction sensitive, so must be checked with an Ohmmeter using the Red test lead on the 'in' points and the black test lead on the 'out' points for a valid reading. A diode in the way will yield false readings, So your ECU reading of pins 21 to 44 should be checked the other way, from pin 44 to 21.
And checked that way, no, it should not read 0.4 Ohms. Given a nominal 12 volts, that would allow 30 amps to flow through that circuit, which is far too high.
I assume you are checking the ECU's alone, with NOTHING attached to them, right?
I have decided to get some modules from ebay. I don't think the DFI ECU will pose any problem. It's plug-N-play I think.
The KIPASS ECU will be different tho. I don't know the process besides taking the bike to a shop that has KDS and having them sync/register it. Do I need to replace my FOB's too or can my existing ones be "learned" by the replacement KIPASS ECU?
Can someone give me some info on what to expect or what I need to do?
If you swap ECU and / or KiPass ECU, the bike will need to be attached to KDS and 'set straight'.
If you replace the KiPass ECU, you can still use your RFID fobs, again once the ignition switch housing circuity is programmed to recognize them but you will require the activation number for the RF (full function, battery operated, fobs) fobs, which almost no one ever has with existing fobs. No way to retreive the number from the old KiPass ECU either; you either have it written down or not and with most people, it is 'not'. As 2008's came with two RF fobs, you will most likely want to replace at least one, which is somewhat expensive at around $200+ for the hardware plus programming.
Brian
I got the bike used from a Dealer. I didn't know about the KIPASS registration numbers so I didn't ask, I got 2 full function FOB's sans numbers. So the FOB's that I have are now useless because the ECU that they were paired with is also useless. I intend to replace the KIPASS ECU, purchase one new FOB, and pair them together using the new registration number that comes with the FOB. Is that what has to be done or am I still missing something?
Update to a fairly frustrating problem.
My efforts related to getting my busted KIPASS ECU and DFI ECU repaired have fallen short at this time. I found plenty of companies that repair immobilizer and fuel ECUs for automobiles and some that advertise motorcycle ECU repair (One is in the Netherlands and another in Australia). I also found some INCONUS but none that want to or can do repairs- only registration/flashing.
So, here is what I have:
1. A KIPASS ECU with a shorted diode in the 12VDC input power circuit. The diode is accessible. I have 2 Fobs linked to it. Fixing this ECU is my most desired option.
2. A DFI ECU with a shorted diode in the 12VDC input power circuit. I trashed it in an attempt to get to the diode. The tar that it is potted in proved too much to handle and I mangled it.
3. A KIPASS ECU purchased used from eBay. I do not have any key Fobs for this ECU.
4. A DFI ECU purchased used from eBay.
I understand that without Fob-specific registration numbers I can't use my existing Fobs with a replacement KIPASS ECU and I don't have those numbers. As a potential workaround I'm looking for a company that can, perhaps, link new Fobs to the used eBay KIPASS ECU (or use my existing Fobs?). Then I can trailer my bike to the local Stealer to get it all synchronized using KDS3. That's one possibility. The other, much more expensive option, is to purchase a new KIPASS ECU / 2 FOB combo and have the Stealer set that up with KDS3.
If I have other options that you can think of I would like to hear about them.
I think I understand. The transponder in the SLU will recognize the RF chip inside of my Fobs so I should be able to "unlock" and satisfy that portion of the immobilizer function. What about the used eBay DFI ECU? Wouldn't I still get an error when the KIPASS ECU queries the DFI? That would still leave me with an immobile bike, right? Please tell me I'm wrong, I can take it.
Update to a fairly frustrating problem.
My efforts related to getting my busted KIPASS ECU and DFI ECU repaired have fallen short at this time. I found plenty of companies that repair immobilizer and fuel ECUs for automobiles and some that advertise motorcycle ECU repair (One is in the Netherlands and another in Australia). I also found some INCONUS but none that want to or can do repairs- only registration/flashing.
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Perhaps you tried him but from what BDF says he can't do it.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kawasaki-GTR1400-06-12-Key-Coding-Service-Lock-Set-ECU-ECM-Programming/262629449056?hash=item3d25ef5d60:g:BT4AAOxySfBR66Dx
A bike wrecker here is advertising a top triple clamp with lock, key, active & passive fobs. I've emailed him to ask if he has the ECUs for you. I'll PM you the answer if positive.
Thanks Freddy! I would have no problem with replacing everything with a known/operational set. SLU, KIPASS ECU w/fobs, and DFI ECU.If you find what you need PM me with the price you are willing to pay and I will see if I can beat it.
If you have all the parts it would seem better if Tree gets em from you as the seller over here doesn't have the KIPASS ecu, which makes what he does have useless.
Question: Is a used KIPASS ECU, fobs and key lock from a (wrecked) bike interchangeable between different years? I believe some of the items have different p/n for year but would that preclude a full system changeover - as in an owner lost both fobs - with KDS3?