Pirelli Angel Report

[stevewfl]

KiPass protects our bikes so well we just talk about tires and oil a lot. 

And with KiPass about any brand/weight works well for either topics

[Pokey]

I managed about 8K miles with the st's on the fz1 (120/190 size).  The rear is practically shot now while the front has about 30% remaining.  For the last 2-3K miles, handling has been in the crapper.  Feels like a truck.

Going back to the pr2's.  I ran recommended pressures too (36/42 recommended for the fz1).  Unless I pull the pr2's off early (usually due to a long trip coming up), I can easily get 10-11K out of the set.  The $30 or so dollars saved is not worth it to me.

The C14 weighs allot more than the FZ1 too, most folks don't seem to do much better with the PR2's vs ST's concerning mileage and longevity. I will try the PR3 next time, but I very much like the Angels.

[chi-gpz1100]

Ironically enough, when I had the c14, I was getting similar, 10-11K miles with the pr2's as well.  Go figure.

[W14]

Will not be buying Pirelli if that is the kind of mileage they get, expect to get 11K plus out the PR2's. My bike has about 17K  miles and I am on the second set of tires.

[chi-gpz1100]

Just got done buttoning everything and logging the tire change.  I was off by 700 miles above, I managed 8700 miles from these tires.  That's still less than what I get out of michelins with more rubber left.  Punched a hole in the tread and measured depth - ~3/16" thickness between the outside tread and the inside rubber coating.  I suspect cords would be showing any day now if it wasn't changed out.

Feels good to have pr2's back on.  Should get them broken in and reaccustomed to in a ride or two.

For those that like the angel ST's, more power to you.  Buy what works well for you.  I bought them because of price and recommendation (probably weighed equally).  I knew from the first 100 miles I wouldn't like them.  They didn't seem to hold the line like I was used to.  By 1000 miles this effect hadn't changed.  With the pr2's (not sure about pr3, probably similar), once you set your line/lean, keeping it is nearly effortless.

As always, ymmv.

[Pokey]

The tire mileage expectations from a bike like this makes me laugh........and opinions are like an asshole.

[ZG]

and opinions are like an asshole.

Everyone has one? Or they stink? 

[Jeremy Mitchell]

Tire mileage has more to do with the right wrist and riding habits than it does rubber.  This is why I get 5,500-6,500 miles out of a PR2/PR3 and some people get 20,000 (I can't even imagine that).  I have a little over 2,500 on my Angels right now, and they will see some serious abuse use this weekend down in Arkansas.  Hopefully I can get a couple more weeks out of them.  I am suspecting that they will be changed out between 4,500 and 5,500 miles.

[Pokey]

Everyone has one? Or they stink? 

At times both.

[B.D.F.]

Yes, the person using the bike makes a big difference as does the road material and the temperatures the bike is usually used in; tires seem to wear a lot faster in the south where it is warmer than they do in the north (just an observation on my part and not a real fact).

One difference between the two tire types (Pirelli Angel GTs and Michelin Pilot Road 2 or 3's) is that the Michelins handle better as they wear down. I found the Pirellis, while great tires when new, started really resisting turn- in before they were worn half- way down. The Michelins do deteriorate of course but no where near as badly as the Pirellis.

Brian

Tire mileage has more to do with the right wrist and riding habits than it does rubber.  This is why I get 5,500-6,500 miles out of a PR2/PR3 and some people get 20,000 (I can't even imagine that).  I have a little over 2,500 on my Angels right now, and they will see some serious abuse use this weekend down in Arkansas.  Hopefully I can get a couple more weeks out of them.  I am suspecting that they will be changed out between 4,500 and 5,500 miles.

[RideBellChain]

So...PR2 or PR3?

I'm still on the stockers, I have about 2200 miles, and getting ready to go up to North Carolina in a couple of weeks.  I'm just starting to see a flat spot on the rear, and the fronts look good. I don't want to lose a day changing tires up there at a premium price I might add...

Do you guys think they will last?  I'm pretty smooth on the throttle, but riding in florida on flat, straight roads...  Should I get tires now or wait till I get back?

[Jeremy Mitchell]

Get the PR2 unless you ride in the rain frequently.  The PR2 wears a little longer and it is about $40 cheaper for the pair than the PR3.  I would swap tires before the trip if I were you, I just dealt with being in another state while needing a new tire.  I didn't get gouged to badly on the labor and the tire was actually cheaper than buying it off the internet.  In other words.....I got very lucky.  Another positive effect from new tires is the exceptional handling they provide over the stock tire.

[timbo]

Is the PR2 and PR3 identical except for the rain sipes?

[Jeremy Mitchell]

Is the PR2 and PR3 identical except for the rain sipes?

Very similar.  Michelin made a couple of very small changes but there is really no noticeable differences between the two tires unless I was riding in the rain.

http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/index.cfm?event=pilotroad3

http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/index.cfm?event=pilotroad2

[Frontier]

Wow, I have almost 10,000 miles on my front Angel and 8,000 miles on my rear Angel. Of course I got 8,200 miles out of my front original tire on an '09 and almost 10,000 miles out of the rear original. I had a lot of long highway trips but thankfully here in Pennsylvania you can wear the sides as well.

What pressure does the OP run?

I seem to recall something on the old forum that said it was difficult to tell you were close to the cords on this tire and that one day, despite the tire looking good, the cords appear out of nowhere.

42 psi on the air gauge which gives me about 44psi hot on the tps readout.
Yup, one day it looks fine then you get home from the ride and it's chord city showing.