Author Topic: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???  (Read 9542 times)

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Re: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2012, 11:35:12 AM »
Want to venture a guess?  I'm thinking the pads will stick somewhat to the rotor after coming to a stop and give a false indication of stickiness.
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Re: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2012, 01:06:32 PM »
At the risk of repeating myself....
When someone checks brake drag they usually lift the front wheel off the ground, spin the wheel and listen and or watch to see how far the wheel spins, right?
Chances are that this person pulled into their garage the previous ride using their front brake to stop the bike, right?
So tell me, what's wrong with this scenario? Why will any tests that this person does be invalid?

Think and then you tell me. (This is not an attempt to bolster ego or show-off. So please lets treat this conversation with respect).

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Re: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2012, 02:30:03 PM »
Galfer states that you should sand your rotors every pad change for their pads, to decontaminate them. I never have over a lot of bikes and years, but it makes sense to me when I think about it: old school surfacing is not easy on these, being floaters. I will do it real soon. If it works or not, I wont be able to tell, but as I said: I like the idea. Your ideas may differ.

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Re: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2012, 11:52:05 AM »
The flexing of the forks/axle/caliper mounts as well as any run-out present in the rotors themselves causes the pads to retract. This action occurs immediately while riding so we have much more clearance of pad to rotor.
Not the case as we pull up to a stop, and take our measurements. The only pad retraction influence is from the hysteresis or springiness  of the piston seals which is  very minor.
If you want to measure pad drag, buy a cheap infrared temperature gun and check rotor temps at various times. Alternatively, stop your bike without using your front (or back if linked) brake, then lift and spin the wheel.


Any residue left on the rotors from the application of  cleaning agents will affect the friction performance of your brakes. If you feel you need to clean them, soapy water with a good rinse is fine. Or, for deep cleaning to remove old pad deposits use a high grade acetone as that will leave the least residue.
Hand sanding a rotor is pointless, you will never remove any old pad residue that way. The only way to efficiently smooth/clean a rotor is with a specialized rotor hone or flat hone.

If your rotors are turning blue from heat, then yes, you should be concerned, but I suspect that condition is very rare for the folks posting on this board.
Take it or leave it, it's free advice.  :)

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Re: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2012, 08:07:58 PM »
I'll ask again...

Just thinking, is there some sort of 'standard' or rule of thumb about how freely the front wheel should spin when suspended?  I'm pretty sure that 1/4 revolution is a bit shy.  Just asking....

I have had many bikes, and NEVER had one drag like this.   I can only spin it about a quater turn.  I am convinced that the drag combined with the COLD rain/snow that we rode in is what led to the warpage. 
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Re: Brake Pads Dragging On My Front Rotors ???
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2012, 09:18:06 AM »
I'll ask again...

I have had many bikes, and NEVER had one drag like this.   I can only spin it about a quater turn.  I am convinced that the drag combined with the COLD rain/snow that we rode in is what led to the warpage.

quarter turn certainly don't look good to me.
i had some brake juddering issue with the front brake last week, it was so bad that i thought the front wheel bearings was on it's way out.
cleaned up the brake discs with soap and a scotchbrite pad, instantly solved the problem.

couple of other things that you might try, assuming the discs aren't actually warped:
- check for pressure build-up at the caliper end. clear hose on the bleed valve, loosen valve without pressing the brake lever and see if brake fluid fills up the hose like the brakes are pressurized. if yes, then open up the brake fluid container, work the brakes a bit and open the bleed valve again to check. could be brake lever issue (as stated in some earlier posts) or maybe blocked up master cylinder fluid-return hole, or you changed new pads + pushed in caliper pistons without opening fluid reservoir.

- pump the caliper pistons out a bit, let it clamp on old brake pads or a piece of metal. clean up the piston with soap and an old toothbrush. dry it off and make sure the pistons go in and out smoothly. again, make sure the brake fluid reservoir's cap is off or at least loosened till you're done with both sides.