New Member, New '11 14, and Many New Questions...

[silvermane]

First off, good site guys!  I'm in the process of clearing out the ol' and bringing in the new bike/s.  Since the launch of the 14 I've been watching it close.  I will admit I am a speed freak of 36 wonderful years and was considering the new ZX14 w/Corbin Bags, but when I seen both bikes next to each other and realized I am 52 now, it was a no-brainer   The Concours seems like practically the perfect bike and four of my close ridin' buds all have one and all have enjoyed them.  Anyway, to start off I've always wanted a GPS, heated grips and other electronic gadgets, so I'm ready to take action.  I'm looking for ideas on where to get electric for (I've purchased a fuzeblock): GPS, Radar Detector, iPhone, and maybe a latte mixer later   I keep hearing that there are two spare connections (one front, one rear) but couldn't find the links here.  Any input would be greatly appreciated!

[Conrad]

Here's some help on the acc leads in the front and the back of a '08/'09. This should help you out a bit. I think that those connetions are limited to either 5 or 10 amps though.  If you're going with the latte machine later, you'll prolly want to connect the fuzeblock directly to the battery.

http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/accleads

Oh yeah, welcome!

[maxtog]

Welcome to yet ANOTHER new owner and forum member!  You will love it.

[silvermane]

That's It!  Thx Conrad!

[DonB]

welcome and enjoy the new bike
I would mount a fuze block and wire it to the batt. then would use the acc lead front or back to key the relay with power when the key is on for the fuze block

[ssmith]

Welcome to the zoo

[backoutonthehighway]

welcome and enjoy the new bike
I would mount a fuze block and wire it to the batt. then would use the acc lead front or back to key the relay with power when the key is on for the fuze block

To the OP: welcome! Get ready to spend some $!

Don, I read the words, but I have no clue how to accomplish said "key." 

[Hayeshfc]

If you like "grunt" get the ECU flashed by Guhl motors - best farkle on my C14 so far!

[ZG]

Welcome SM!

[silvermane]

If you like "grunt" get the ECU flashed by Guhl motors - best farkle on my C14 so far!

Hmmmm, now you're talking my language

[Toaster]

Welcome SM, you will have a hard time getting the grin off your face.
My 10 plus bikes , and this is a keeper TID!!

[Scaffolder]

Welcome and enjoy it.

[Conrad]

To the OP: welcome! Get ready to spend some $!

Don, I read the words, but I have no clue how to accomplish said "key." 

He's saying to use a power relay. The main power comes from the battery and the acc leads 'turn the relay on' when the bike's key is turned on. 

See the pic below from Fred H's site. Instead of the 'horns' connecting to pin 30 you'd have the fuzeblock and instead of the 'existing horn wires from bike' you'd have the ACC leads connected to pins 85 & 86. When the bike is on pins 85 & 86 are energized and the relay connects the fuzeblock to the battery.   

http://i.pbase.com/o6/41/9841/1/128800500.TVvpY90R.HornRelay.JPG

[backoutonthehighway]

He's saying to use a power relay. The main power comes from the battery and the acc leads 'turn the relay on' when the bike's key is turned on. 

See the pic below from Fred H's site. Instead of the 'horns' connecting to pin 30 you'd have the fuzeblock and instead of the 'existing horn wires from bike' you'd have the ACC leads connected to pins 85 & 86. When the bike is on pins 85 & 86 are energized and the relay connects the fuzeblock to the battery.   

http://i.pbase.com/o6/41/9841/1/128800500.TVvpY90R.HornRelay.JPG

Thanks Conrad! Now that I understand. Much appreciated!

[just gone]

I would mount a fuze block and wire it to the batt. then would use the acc lead front or back to key the relay with power when the key is on for the fuze block

He's saying to use a power relay. The main power comes from the battery and the acc leads 'turn the relay on' when the bike's key is turned on. 

Well I think these are really two different ways to make the connections. DonB's way is the way I did mine. There is nothing wrong with Conrad's method, however it will negate a perhaps desirable feature of the Fuzeblock (not just a fuse block). The Fuzeblock has it's own relay built in which if wired in per the directions allows you to have circuits either powered all the time, or only powered when the bike's key is on. You can later switch the circuit from switched to powered always by simply moving the fuse for that circuit either left or right in the block. If you use Conrad's method the whole block including the onboard relay is switched on with the bike key switch. I prefer to have my GPS always powered on since it is a low drain item. I don't want to mess with it powering up when I stop for gas or a quick bite to eat. I also have a pigtail under the seat for a battery tender that is on all the time. My recommendation is to use DonB's method for maximum flexibility and to fully utilize the features of the Fuzeblock that you paid for. For a regular fuse block (not a Fuzeblock) I would use Conrad's method with the external automotive relay.

At only 5 amps, the accessory leads circuit is fairly useless in my opinion for anything other than triggering relays, or occasionally I use a USB plug in the dash power outlet to charge someone else's cell phone on a trip (while my cell phone is charging in my powered tankbag which has it's own circuit {switched} from my Fuzeblock).

[backoutonthehighway]

Thanks Marty. I'm working through all the powered farkles I want to install on the bike  (I have about 12 additions that will need to be powered) and trying to figure out how I'm going to make all of them play nicely. Good food for thought here while I'm doing my research.

Very helpful!

[Conrad]

Well I think these are really two different ways to make the connections. DonB's way is the way I did mine. There is nothing wrong with Conrad's method, however it will negate a perhaps desirable feature of the Fuzeblock (not just a fuse block). The Fuzeblock has it's own relay built in which if wired in per the directions allows you to have circuits either powered all the time, or only powered when the bike's key is on. You can later switch the circuit from switched to powered always by simply moving the fuse for that circuit either left or right in the block. If you use Conrad's method the whole block including the onboard relay is switched on with the bike key switch. I prefer to have my GPS always powered on since it is a low drain item. I don't want to mess with it powering up when I stop for gas or a quick bite to eat. I also have a pigtail under the seat for a battery tender that is on all the time. My recommendation is to use DonB's method for maximum flexibility and to fully utilize the features of the Fuzeblock that you paid for. For a regular fuse block (not a Fuzeblock) I would use Conrad's method with the external automotive relay.

At only 5 amps, the accessory leads circuit is fairly useless in my opinion for anything other than triggering relays, or occasionally I use a USB plug in the dash power outlet to charge someone else's cell phone on a trip (while my cell phone is charging in my powered tankbag which has it's own circuit {switched} from my Fuzeblock).

Sorry, I didn't know that the fuzeblock had a relay built in. My bad.

[just gone]

Good food for thought here while I'm doing my research.

It can get a little tight around the positive battery terminal so try to work it so only 2 additional power wires
go to the battery. I managed to get both a 10 gauge and a 12 gauge wire in there along with an inline fuse for both
but it was tight. I ran the power wires through clear vinyl tubing for extra protection. My 10 gauge goes back to the Fuzeblock
under the seat and the 12 gauge goes up front to the Steble horn and HIDs. In your planning remember that if you go with air horn(s),
(of the permanently wired stuff) that only the engine's starter motor will need more amps than the horn(s) compressor. Additionally I recommend a power pigtail needs to be on a circuit strong enough to run a small air compressor. Even if you plan on using cartridges for flats it's nice to have a strong unused circuit somewhere on the bike for whatever the future may hold.
I only wish I had planned for the latte mixer (where was my mind  ),
 well I guess that's what the pigtail under the seat is for. 

[silvermane]

Fantastic stuff guys.  This site has proven worthy.  Multiple opinions and suggestions are great too.