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Offline timsatx

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OCC vs PJD vs JJ
« on: December 07, 2011, 10:59:07 AM »
Did anybody check out this competition? There are a lot of opinions as to who built the best bike. IMO, while PJD's looked beautiful, I have to go with JJ's because it is a bike you can ride. I have seen where some folks have said that you couldn't ride JJ's because it is too uncomfortable. While that may be true for you or me, I have seen where JJ built one of his bikes and then rode it to Sturgis. PJD's would have to stop every 20 miles to fill up. Hell, there are places in Texas where it is more than that between two places, by far.

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Re: OCC vs PJD vs JJ
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 11:11:35 AM »
I did watch it. My personal vote was exactly as it turned out, pjd - jj - occ. Here's my logic -

  PJD  - innovative design, live suspension, clean. I see JJ's point on the fuel tank, but all it would take is adding a larger tank (there's room) and doing a more confortable seat to bring it from butt bling to a rider.

  JJ  - has the best single person fab skills, but his design and thinking outside the box is lacking. More of the same, and really, how comfortable is that bike? not very.

  OCC - They totally eliminated themselves from the competion. This was a bike build, not an all terrain vehicle build.

   I also think JR has the best attitude and holds himself the most professionally. Supposedly all the family drama is very real, but if you look at it a little critically, you could dee that Senior has done an exceptional job of setting JR up for the long haul as a builder to be reconed with.

  As far as JJ's contention about a "bike you can ride" I wish they had a class for that, I'd bring Shoodaben and kick all thier a$$es   ;D JMO, Steve


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Re: OCC vs PJD vs JJ
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 11:53:59 AM »
You know, back in the day when they really had biker build-offs, you had to ride to the competition. Build it at your shop and ride to the competition. It shoulda been that way here too.

I do like Jr's builds and he does some wild stuff, but by and large they are theme bikes that are not made to be everyday drivers. I say lets keep it in that vein next time and see what happens. I think JJ also thought that Jr might win as a popularity contest. He built his based on being a driver and not for popularity. I guess in the future there needs to be a narrowing of the rules so it isn't completely wide open. Sr's shouldn't have even been allowed the rules were so wide open.

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Re: OCC vs PJD vs JJ
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 05:15:00 PM »
PJDs bike was still more rideable the JJs, JJs required the biker to look to the left or right, no way an average person could see straight ahead.  Like SISF said, a bigger tank and covered seat would be easy to add.  His bike was far and away the best build.  Having said all that, if I needed to own any of the builds it would be the ATV trike thingy SR built, it is winter time and to think of the places I could go, I would pack snowshoes for when the batt. died.  And, just how much did SR actually do on the build?????  If he even got %1 he go too much.
Kudos to both PJD, his entire crew and JJ.  Great biker bikes for sure, but we all know they aint riders, if they were they woulda designed an SST ;D

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Re: OCC vs PJD vs JJ
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 05:58:42 PM »
Jessie was the only one that showed up to the competition with a bike. Had it been a real build off he had to have won hands down.

I don't know what the hell was going on over at Seniors place but he let his employees run the show and they simply embarrassed him. It's possible that with a little more upfront weight he could interest the military in that thing.

Paulie did his usual theme bike thing and in my opinion Jessie was right on the mark with the cake decorator comment. Creative but wouldn't last 100 miles without bits popping off on the highway. They belong under glass.

Jessie James is a real bike builder and his creations are registration and fuel ready.
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