THis goes out to all the stupid people........

[Rhino]

According to our local Harley dealership, anything over 800 per year on a trade-in is considered excessive mileage.

A pretty good day of riding.

[rtarp1]

i dont understand the animosity you guys have for harleys and their riders. i have a 2004 dyna wide glide  as well and after 35k miles it hasnt had any problems, none.  I can tell you from my experience that the sport class riders seem to be bigger **** than the harley guys. When i pull up to a bunch of harleys and park they are always friendly and comment on the bike. As for a harley being a form of birth control, thats bull****. when i shine up the harley and take it out bar hoppin i get beautiful babes constantly wanting to sit on it and take pictures. when i take out the connie i get zip / nada.     i think all the negativity the sport class has for harleys and their  riders is ridiculous and shows a level of immaturity that needs to be addressed

[connie1]

Chicks at the bar are very well known for their knowledge of motorcycles.   Just sayin'.

When I was shopping for my first bike my wife (a very discerning woman) said in no uncertain terms that if I got a Harley she would never, absolutely never, ride with me.
My freinds who ride Harley go for their saturday rides and cover up to 50 miles.  Yeah tough riding,  but stop at  tree or four bars along the way.  Getting a semi drunk 20 year old to sit on their bike as they stand around kicking tires isn't much of a problem.
While they're bar hopping, me and the other sport bikes have gone 300 miles, stopped for some fine dining, seen alot of sights.  The real difference in the two bikes and their riders is that the cruisers are for socializing and the tourers are for riding.  Different bikes for different people and situations. 
Generally sport tourers don't rag on Harley riders untill they get all sanctimonious about how great their antiques are compared to other bikes.  Somehow they got the idea that we all wanted a Harley, just couldn't afford it. (I think that one is dealer supported)

We will now return to previously scheduled programming (op)

[Rhino]

i dont understand the animosity you guys have for harleys and their riders. i have a 2004 dyna wide glide  as well and after 35k miles it hasnt had any problems, none.  I can tell you from my experience that the sport class riders seem to be bigger dicks than the harley guys. When i pull up to a bunch of harleys and park they are always friendly and comment on the bike. As for a harley being a form of birth control, thats bullshit. when i shine up the harley and take it out bar hoppin i get beautiful babes constantly wanting to sit on it and take pictures. when i take out the connie i get zip / nada.     i think all the negativity the sport class has for harleys and their  riders is ridiculous and shows a level of immaturity that needs to be addressed

For the record I have zero, zip, nada animosity toward Harley or the people who ride them. I do think that HD charges a 50% premium for the logo and for that reason alone, HD is not for me. Twice I have had a Harley rider tell me to "get a Harley".  But that's fine. I wish the company well and love seeing people buying American bikes.

[rtarp1]

like anyone cares about the motorcycle knowledge of a beautiful woman who wants to sit on a pretty bike and take pictures . (just sayin).   
    2 completly different bikes for different purposes is why i have both.  the point is the sport class riders seem to be the bigger snobs/dicks.    You think i never went to an upscale dinner on my harley? 
   
"Generally sport tourers don't rag on Harley riders untill they get all sanctimonious about how great their antiques are compared to other bikes. "    From personal experience and reading on this forum , this statement is false.   i often ride with groups of new people and i see and hear it all the time from the sport class, never spoken to anyones face of course.  the most i hear from harley guys when a sport bike flys by is the occaasional organ donor comment.   Time to get the chip off your shoulders guys and grow up .   

[rtarp1]

i agree harley is overpriced for what you get. your paying for a pretty paintjob and a harley name.  Bottom line is we are all riders and deserve respect equally.

[martin_14]

Bottom line is we are all riders and deserve respect equally.

Nope, not for me. Riders ride. They deserve my respect. Somebody parading, taking up street space for their egos... don't. HD is not about motorcycling (it stopped being about it a loooong time ago to give space for marketing, which is fine by me). They are a way of life that I don't care for, thank you.

[Ken]

Having lived in the Daytona Beach area since 1967, I stop at a light and some riders won't even say Hello unless YOU are also riding the same vibrating, noisy type of bike they are, (you know who you are) and yet I survived the AMF Harley Davidson age. Every block there was another one broken down.......Thankfully they were brought in to town on trailers or they would have never made it here.  Enough said.

[Son of Pappy]

Spring is in the air, aint it time to be riding?  Really???

My best of friends owns and rides a Harley, I vowed many years ago as a joke that I would NEVER ride a Harley, still haven't broke that vow.  Another really good friend owns a Harley shop, we joke all the time, but it has never hurt our friendship.  Point is simple ride what ya own, expect some ribbing from the "Other" crowd, but don't take it to heart.  Riders/bikers, whatever ya call yourself, strap on the lid and ride.  And remember, SIlverdammit is the fastest color

[94gixxerod]

Dude, I was  with you as to everyone respecting others for their choices, until you called martin_14 an ******. This is just his opinion and its the internets. No need for this invective.

[Son of Pappy]

Luck?

[rtarp1]

35k miles and no breakdowns or problems pappy. i beat the **** out of it too.

[RBX QB]

Boy, this got ugly.

While I've never cared for the looks of the cruiser bikes, I can appreciate what they are... a potential to escape daily life and get away for awhile, no different from how I see my bikes. Yes, some are gawdy and ostentatious, bust so are a lot of sport bikes. As for classifying riders based upon what they ride... well, I can find a cruiser rider and a sportbike rider BOTH riding like A-Holes, and THAT pisses me off, because it is part of why people (who don't ride) have sometimes poor opinions of motorcyclists. What you ride doesn't define you, but HOW you ride sure does.

Back to topic (sort of)... It does boggle my mind when I see a bike for sale that has averaged less than thousands of miles per year. This guy would seem to be one of those... have it to have it, instead of having it to ride.

Meanwhile, I'll go ride.

[Pokey]

Nope, not for me. Riders ride. They deserve my respect. Somebody parading, taking up street space for their egos... don't. HD is not about motorcycling (it stopped being about it a loooong time ago to give space for marketing, which is fine by me). They are a way of life that I don't care for, thank you.

I'm with you bud! I don't ride for attention, I don't ride for any cause other than "I wanna go ride", I don't ride for a lifestyle, and I don't ride for anybody but me. Like minded people are fun to hangout with, even better when they actually wanna ride.

[rtarp1]

The point of the whole thing was respect your fellow riders no matter what they ride or how far they want to ride.   if im on my harley and you decide not to give me common courtesy and respect see what happens.

[Pokey]

The point of the whole thing was respect your fellow riders no matter what they ride or how far they want to ride.   if im on my harley and you decide not to give me common courtesy and respect see what happens.

So what would happen?

[Son of Pappy]

 

[VirginiaJim]

You know, this stated out so innocently and then went downhill from there.  I WILL NOT have members cursing at other members.  Don't like it.  Won't put up with it.  We appreciate all points of view even if strongly worded.  But no cursing.  If you have a beef, work out through the PM process.