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Offline papaboomboom

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2011, 10:05:44 AM »
I've had about 8 Throttle Meisters. This is NOT a cruise control. It is intended for throttle relief. I use it all the time when droning. I leave it in the "firm" position and simply give it adjustments from time to time to correct speed.

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For heated grips on 10/11 models

1. Do not use the plastic friction ring that is supplied
2. Start with 3 thick and 1 thin washer to adjust tension properly. This will get you pretty close and from there you can make minor adjustments.

Please note that seasonal temperature changes may require you to add or delete a washer to keep proper tension. It is as simple as removing bar end and adding/subtracting a washer. I keep the washers in my smuggler.

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2011, 10:25:12 AM »
I've had about 8 Throttle Meisters. This is NOT a cruise control. It is intended for throttle relief. I use it all the time when droning. I leave it in the "firm" position and simply give it adjustments from time to time to correct speed.

According to TM:

For heated grips on 10/11 models

1. Do not use the plastic friction ring that is supplied
2. Start with 3 thick and 1 thin washer to adjust tension properly. This will get you pretty close and from there you can make minor adjustments.

Please note that seasonal temperature changes may require you to add or delete a washer to keep proper tension. It is as simple as removing bar end and adding/subtracting a washer. I keep the washers in my smuggler.

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I initially installed it without the friction ring.  It didn't work very well.  After I installed it (with no issues) it worked well.

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2011, 01:57:51 PM »
maxtog asked me to post how I put a Vista Cruise on my '10.  I had to use a dremmel tool and grind away part of the plastic to fit the contour of the bigger grip flange.  I took some pics, not sure if they will show much or not.  I'll try to upload them later.
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2011, 02:02:04 PM »
maxtog asked me to post how I put a Vista Cruise on my '10.  I had to use a dremmel tool and grind away part of the plastic to fit the contour of the bigger grip flange.  I took some pics, not sure if they will show much or not.  I'll try to upload them later.

Thanks.  Others have claimed they did something similar (grinding).  However, when I held the *thin* part up to the gap in the handlebar, even that would not fit!  So I don't understand how grinding could help.  I just measured the thickness of the Vista Cruise to be 4.5mm on most of it, and 7mm at the rivet.
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2011, 02:10:08 PM »
Here are the pics - in a couple you can see where I ground away.  On the picture from the top, you can see that I actually screwed it into the throttle housing...



In this picture below, you can really see where it was ground.  The flash really magnifies it.  In real life you don't really see it - if you walked up to my bike and looked at it you probably would not know without really looking closely that it has been worked on.



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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2011, 03:03:02 PM »
I really like the Throttlemeister.  I tried a few other devices not to be named and could not get them to hold.  As stated it is JUST for open spaces to give my hand a break.  Here is a pic of the style I chose:


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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2011, 03:22:57 PM »
Here are the pics - in a couple you can see where I ground away.  On the picture from the top, you can see that I actually screwed it into the throttle housing...

I don't understand how you can have such a huge gap.  Attached is a picture of MY gap, which is still 3mm at the max (near top) and only 2mm min (near bottom).  The 4.5mm/7mm thick Vista simply will not fit in that gap.  I pushed, pulled, pried, nothing will change that gap!
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2011, 07:28:21 PM »
Throttlemiester on my 2009 Concours with aftermarket heated grips from Murph's. No problem installing and it works great. But the Go Cruise looks like just what I was missing for the SV which has bar end mirrors. The O-ring did not work and the bar end mirror prevent a throttlemiester.
So I bought one, and I don't mind the $20 after all he had to buy the mold and pay for running the parts. It's a lot more than just the plastic!
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2011, 11:41:33 PM »
I don't understand how you can have such a huge gap.  Attached is a picture of MY gap, which is still 3mm at the max (near top) and only 2mm min (near bottom).  The 4.5mm/7mm thick Vista simply will not fit in that gap.  I pushed, pulled, pried, nothing will change that gap!
You don't change the gap.  You cut down the Vista Cruise.  Dremel works.  Belt sander helps.  Patience and skill help.  This is definately a custom job.  I have fit several VC's to various bikes.  All of them have required cutting.  Even have one on order now, and expect it will need to be cut, thinned & shaped.

This does not sound like a good project for you.  Perhaps keep looking for something that is ready to bolt-on.
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2011, 06:16:55 AM »
Another vote for the Throttlemeister.   I have one on my C10.  For me, it's the end-all of throttle locks.   Works great and doesn't crowd the grip, which with my big hands is very important.  Not to mention it looks great.   

With that said, I'm going to install real cruise control this winter.   I like the throttle lock except when I ride with my friend who has real cruise on his ElectraGlide.  No comparison.

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2011, 06:17:12 AM »
You don't change the gap.  You cut down the Vista Cruise.  Dremel works.  Belt sander helps.  Patience and skill help.  This is definately a custom job.  I have fit several VC's to various bikes.  All of them have required cutting.  Even have one on order now, and expect it will need to be cut, thinned & shaped.

But I am looking at his gap and my gap- his looks like 9mm!  There is no way I could cut the entire Vista cruise down to 2mm to fit- it would fall apart!  Besides, you can't cut down the rivet area at all.  I am thinking there are some considerable variances between the bikes, or he disassembled the grip somehow and moved it.

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This does not sound like a good project for you.  Perhaps keep looking for something that is ready to bolt-on.

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2011, 09:03:40 AM »
But I am looking at his gap and my gap- his looks like 9mm!  There is no way I could cut the entire Vista cruise down to 2mm to fit- it would fall apart!  Besides, you can't cut down the rivet area at all.  I am thinking there are some considerable variances between the bikes, or he disassembled the grip somehow and moved it.

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Actually, I could and did.  Again, this does not sound like a good project for you.  People who sincerely believe they can't do something are often right.

If is easy to see that he rolled the grip back for the purpose of taking the photo.  The gap you see doesn't exist when the bike is being ridden and the grip is in place.   Trust me, this does not sound like a good project for you.
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2011, 10:09:12 AM »
If I can avoid/afford it, I don't settle for second best products.

I rock a throttlemeister lock on my connie and luvn' it
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2011, 12:19:11 PM »
Actually, I could and did.  Again, this does not sound like a good project for you.  People who sincerely believe they can't do something are often right.

If is easy to see that he rolled the grip back for the purpose of taking the photo.  The gap you see doesn't exist when the bike is being ridden and the grip is in place.   Trust me, this does not sound like a good project for you.

Just to clarify, I didn't roll the grip back for the photo, I rolled it back to make the Vista Cruise work.  It's been that way for the past 23,000+ miles.

On a related note, I know a lot of folks like the Throttlemeister, and no question it is better looking.  But it is such a pain in the ass to use compared to the Vista Cruise that I don't know how you folks live with it.  Maybe you have never tried a Vista Cruise.  And yes, I've ridden a few bikes with the Throttlemeister and can't get used to trying to engage it.
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2011, 10:03:23 PM »
Just to clarify, I didn't roll the grip back for the photo, I rolled it back to make the Vista Cruise work.  It's been that way for the past 23,000+ miles.

Ah HA- see, I am NOT crazy.  So how did you do that, and without damaging anything?  (Damn it was a pain to get on the grip puppies and the thought of trying to move the grips on the tube AND the puppies is just frightening.   (Yes, I know, this might not be the mod for me...)

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On a related note, I know a lot of folks like the Throttlemeister, and no question it is better looking.  But it is such a pain in the ass to use compared to the Vista Cruise that I don't know how you folks live with it.  Maybe you have never tried a Vista Cruise.  And yes, I've ridden a few bikes with the Throttlemeister and can't get used to trying to engage it.

Exactly.  I don't care how many times the Throttlemeister is recommended.  I don't want it.  It has nothing to do with price.
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2011, 11:13:45 PM »
I run a throttle rocker and have also installed the Kaoko throttle lock. As papaboomboom mentioned earlier, I just set it to a firm position and adjust as necessary when I want to use it. It is a very easy install, 10 or 15 minutes and you're done! Pricey, but worth it. ;)
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2011, 06:14:34 AM »
Ah HA- see, I am NOT crazy.  So how did you do that, and without damaging anything?  (Damn it was a pain to get on the grip puppies and the thought of trying to move the grips on the tube AND the puppies is just frightening.   (Yes, I know, this might not be the mod for me...)

Exactly.  I don't care how many times the Throttlemeister is recommended.  I don't want it.  It has nothing to do with price.

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2011, 07:51:43 AM »
Just to clarify, I didn't roll the grip back for the photo, I rolled it back to make the Vista Cruise work.  It's been that way for the past 23,000+ miles.

On a related note, I know a lot of folks like the Throttlemeister, and no question it is better looking.  But it is such a pain in the ass to use compared to the Vista Cruise that I don't know how you folks live with it.  Maybe you have never tried a Vista Cruise.  And yes, I've ridden a few bikes with the Throttlemeister and can't get used to trying to engage it.
Seems like an odd solution.  Why not shoot some compressed air under the grip & pull it outboard a bit?
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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2011, 08:46:26 AM »
A drop or two of wd40 will loosen the grip enough to slide it off.  Once its off, wash the wd out with soap and water.  The grip will go back on and stick like crazy.

I did this with my Vista.  I paid 75 cents for it, used on ebay.   It did require extensive mods.  If I had to pay for my labor, the vista ended up costing about 2 grand.  It does work well, though.

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Re: Throttle Locks
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2011, 02:40:40 PM »
Seems like an odd solution.  Why not shoot some compressed air under the grip & pull it outboard a bit?

That's exactly what I did.  I guess I thought "rolled back" was just a figure of speech. 

BTW, I have tried all sorts of methods over the years of getting grips on and off, but I have a 120lb compressor and it is my most preferred method.
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