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Offline Silver Connie

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cant get front axle out
« on: September 01, 2011, 09:59:55 AM »
what size allen is the axle? i cant drive it out and i dont have an allen that size so ill have to buy one. it must be threaded somewhere. just loosening the pinch bolts isnt freeing it up enough to slide it out.

Offline Daytona_Mike

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 10:07:54 AM »
You need two allens, one to hold the bolt still and one to unscrew the nut (or hold the nut still and unscrew the bolt ). After you figure out which side the nut is on you can leave the pinch bolt tight on that side and just use one allen to remove the bolt.

Have a look at part number 92143 (nut) and the axle 41068
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Offline dvitous

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 10:11:04 AM »
12mm I believe.

I cut a stub piece off the end to fit into 'nut' end of the axle.  The protruding stub lets you get a torque wrench on it.
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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 10:12:28 AM »
12mm
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Offline TjTexasJack

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2011, 11:00:27 AM »
FYI The nut is usually located on speedo side.

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2011, 02:08:41 PM »
You can also use the hex head of bolt with a nut welded or so on other end.  Maybe double-nut would work - I'd try it if no other method is avail to secure nut.

I did buy some miracle glue at the state fair.  The demos looked great (don't they always).  Haven't tried the stuff yet but we'll see.  He glued the ends of an o-ring and after 5 seconds I could not break it and the same was true for nuts glued together and other items...........I was impressed.   We'll see.
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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2011, 06:37:14 PM »
Sears sells the 12mm allen wrench individually.  Just bought 2
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Offline TjTexasJack

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 07:35:24 AM »

PS:

You also need to put some type of anti seize on the axle to help with future removal. I use standard white lithium grease for years with np.

Good Luck.
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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 09:34:20 AM »
I did buy some miracle glue at the state fair......

We make static (non-rotating) o-rings at work all the time with quality Loctite Super Glue and use them in installations up to 1,500 PSI without issue.
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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 09:42:22 AM »
PS:

You also need to put some type of anti seize on the axle to help with future removal. I use standard white lithium grease for years with np.

Good Luck.
Tj

Absolutely!!! A small tube of marine grade copper based anti-seize will last you forever when used on a bike and will save you a world of grief on fastener's that are exposed to road grime & salts.
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Offline Silver Connie

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 04:12:37 PM »
got a 12mm allen socket and wrench today so ill tackle that in the morning.  po wallowed the allen recepticals out pretty bad. lets hope he neverseized it and didnt glue it with state fair glue.

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2011, 06:52:44 AM »
got a 12mm allen socket and wrench today so ill tackle that in the morning.  po wallowed the allen receptacles out pretty bad. lets hope he neverseized it and didnt glue it with state fair glue.

If the sockets are wallowed out you can close them in somewhat by peening the ends with a hammer; this may help the seized threaded to loosen up somewhat too. Don't be afraid to spray large amounts of penetrating oil into all cracks and seem lines before you start tapping with the hammer as this tapping action can further help draw the penetrating oil in. Try to loosen the pinch bolts on both sides and use both wrenches together to get better leverage; you might need to use something to extend the length of the wrenches "Cheater Pipe" and be prepared to put a lot more force than you would expect; when the threads finally give it may sound off like a fire cracker. It is also very likely that you may be forced to drive the axle out with a hammer and long heavy punch too; this often ruins the threads. Once you get your front end apart be sure to replace your wheel bearings and polish all the axle parts and spacers with emery cloth and put everything back together with a coating of grease or never-seize.
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Offline redzgrider

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Re: cant get front axle out
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 08:46:31 AM »
Proper process is to loosen the pinch bolts on one side (I generally loosen the R/H side, opposite the speedo drive) while leaving the pinch bolts on the other side tight. Now take your 12mm drive of choice and loosen the axel bolt. You can use a 12mm hex key, but a 12mm drive bit on a 1/2" ratchet is a much better option -- significantly more torque. If you can use the drive bit on an impact wrench, so much the better. If the nut side turns when the axel is turned, then use your second driver to restrain it. You'll need the second driver for install torque any which way.