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Offline XR6

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Faulty tail light?
« on: March 25, 2015, 05:49:17 PM »
I have noticed that my tail light seems to be dim!! I see only every second LED is lit?  Is this normal?? 
My brother commented that when following me,  my tail light was hard to see. (Day time)

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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 09:01:14 PM »
I have noticed that my tail light seems to be dim!! I see only every second LED is lit?  Is this normal?? 
My brother commented that when following me,  my tail light was hard to see. (Day time)

See photo:-

I don't have a photo to compare to at the moment, but I think that spacing is normal, it is not missing any lights.  All tail lights are hard to see in direct bright light during the daytime, otherwise they would be too bright at night.  The brake lights should be much brighter, however.
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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 10:36:38 PM »
Thanks Maxtog.

Seems strange to have only 1/2 the lights on. 
Yes,  when I press the brake the lights get stronger.

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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 03:15:11 PM »
Looks kinda like this..running, no brakes...



Sorry, bad pic....brakes on...

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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 08:00:36 PM »
Off topic sorry, but I like the trailer, haven't seen a C14 with a trailer behind it yet. As for the OPs tail lights, hard to really tell the brightness in the pic, how do they look at night?
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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 04:01:25 AM »
The pattern is normal.  I just checked mine.
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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 04:24:05 PM »
Maybe the 'unlit' LEDs (if any), are for brakes only? Haven't checked mine other than against a wall while activating the brakes. Remember they're 2008 technology (LEDs have come a long way since then). And yes, I also think the tail (and even the brake) lights on this bike are on the dim side. All my vehicles with LEDs are much brighter than this bike. Some cars like Cadillacs, are retina-burning bright, so at the other extreme. We need something in the middle, like most vehicles nowadays. BMW bikes are about twice as bright as this bike in both tail and brake light modes, and how all motorcycles should be intensity-wise IMO.

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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 04:35:01 PM »
there are no "un-lit" lamps, they are spaced like that so that they create a full width bright mode when the brakes are on, and appear dimmer when not actuated. The photo I posted clearly shows when the brakes are on, the light is quite bright.

oh, the tail lamp is the same lamp from 2008 thru current 2015 model.... ::)


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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:55 PM »
Maybe the 'unlit' LEDs (if any), are for brakes only? Remember they're 2008 crappy technology (LEDs have come a long way since then). And yes, I also think the tail (and even the brake) lights on this bike are on the dim side. All my vehicles with LEDs are much brighter than this bike. Some cars like Cadillacs, are retina-burning bright, so at the other extreme. We need something in the middle, like most vehicles nowadays. BMW bikes are about twice as bright as this bike in both tail and brake light modes, and how all motorcycles should be intensity-wise IMO.

As MOB says, the design in the LED spacing is intentional.  I don't think the light is all that much dimmer than other LED vehicles.  It is dimmer than what my Admore light bar puts out (mounted below the license place on the C14) but not by a whole lot.  Brake lights that are too bright can actually be an annoyance at night- blinding rearward drivers, especially at stoplights (and you are right about some cars like Cadillacs being that way).  I believe in the "more area is better" rather than "brighter is better" way.  I prefer a similar light output, but spread across a larger area, so there are fewer "hotspots".  For bikes, a temporary brake light modulator (a few seconds with a reactivation disable delay) is also a *very* good idea (and yes, I do have that too).  But I do hope those don't make it to cars, since we still need a few advantages.
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Re: Faulty tail light?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 05:26:57 PM »
Off topic sorry, but I like the trailer, haven't seen a C14 with a trailer behind it yet. As for the OPs tail lights, hard to really tell the brightness in the pic, how do they look at night?

here's an updated link for that trailer...
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=14520.msg178117#msg178117

not to muddy the water on the o/p's questions.

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