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Scala Rider/Q2 troubleshooting
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:57:37 PM »
Hello All

I have gone to the end of the internet looking for a fix to my issue.. I have both the Scala Rider and Q2.. they used to work flawlessly- but both sets now experience long bouts of non connection to passenger. i can find no information anywhere on what the issue may be. Hoping someone here has had/solved the issue..

Thanks
« Last Edit: March 30, 2015, 02:57:34 PM by maxtog »
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Re: Scala Rider/Q2 trouble shooting
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 05:27:49 AM »
I have owned the first series teamset, and now the G9 Powerset, which I've upgraded to the G9X cradle.

The Q2's were usually pretty solid...one of their better models. I've got 2 friends that are still using them after several years. When those came out, Cardo addressed a lot of the first series bugs and design flaws.

The originals' platform had a lot of bugs. Some things I discovered-

The rider's set was the master, the passenger's the slave. (For most things, that is...)
BUT- if you wanted the intercoms to stay on all the time and not mute after 10 seconds of silence, that had to be set from the passenger's unit. I ordered 2 new sets, and straight out of the box, both passenger sets failed to charge, and failed to turn on. So, I used the 2 master rider sets together, which gave my passenger the ability to link their cell phone to their unit. Problem then was, even if my passenger was mid-conversation, it would mute out. I was constantly yelling into mine to reopen the com. What a huge drag that was!

 Within 2 years, both batteries started failing, and would shut down completely after an hour or so. So, I pitched them in the trash, and went with a G9.
 They've had their share of issues, too... but, overall... a huge improvement.
The G9x cradle was another huge improvement. But, my G9's will still drop the com link sometimes... Even when me and a riding buddy are within a couple hundred feet and in line of sight. Not sure why, but it's starting to become a real pain, too. They'll drop out in the middle of one of us speaking!
Sometimes, to reconnect, I have to completely turn my unit off, then back on, then reconnect to solve it.

One thing I've learned about Scala's technology, it isn't w/o flaws... but it is getting better
Never used a Sena, but many rave about them. When I wear these G9's out, I may go that way... especially now that all mfgr's are becoming less proprietary and will link up with other brands.

If your Q2's are giving you trouble, it might be time to do like I did and just invest in an upgrade?

But, I would caution you to really check your next set out... before you buy!
'Cause once you spend your $500 for a pair, find out the issues as a beta tester, it's hard to get a refund... sometimes downright impossible. Then you find yourself having to sell them, and taking a beating. Mfgr's seem to be REAL slow fixing their bugs, too. I found Cardo's tech service dept to be frustrating, at best. They can walk you through how to factory reset, and a few things like that... but when it comes down to design flaws, they live in total denial. They've blamed me, my phone, my GPS...everything they could think of to pass the buck and evade responsibility for their buggy crap.

If these things were less expensive, (say $100/ set) it wouldn't be such a big deal. But it can really suck to pay $500 for a set, and then have a serious issue because the factory rushed the units to market flawed in the quest for money, then gives you the run-around with no real fix!
Yes... I have experienced enough with Cardo's tech support to make me seriously look at Sena next time. That's been my experiences. Not sure if you're experiencing something that can be fixed through a reset or a software update from their site, they're suffering from a software glitch (bug), or they're just failing?

If you haven't already tried, you might be able to resolve it by calling Cardo...maybe not
The Cardo Community sometimes can help with answers/ suggestions.
Kind of odd I have a similar issue with my G9's though, huh?

HTH. Good luck!
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Re: Scala Rider/Q2 trouble shooting
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 09:47:48 AM »
C14LVR

Thanks for the awesome info.. I thought about a software update- but I don't see any way to connect to a computer- on my units there is only a recharge outlet. I have spent time on the  Cardio web-site.. but will give them a call.
The issue we have is that they go off in the middle of talking so it is not the auto off. and they some times stay off for minutes at a time - then magically beep and come back on..
these things worked so great for a while- i bought a second set on sale for friends to use and as a backup.

I have thought about upgrading to the latest and greatest - but have found that all units have some issues. and as stated- they arn't cheap.
Thanks again
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Re: Scala Rider/Q2 troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 04:23:26 PM »
Sounds like yours are doing the same as mine... Except mine won't come back on unless manually forced.

I can't remember, but seems like the Q2's were not upgradeable or PC connectable.
My cord has a USB that removes from the wall wart and plugs into your USB on the PC.

Another upgrade option that may meet the need if you can't get your Q2's working would be the new Q3 set. A pair is around $100 cheaper than a G9X powerset.
You just don't get as many features, but they're still pretty cool, and I do know they'll music share... Meaning both rider and passenger can listen simultaneously to one music source wirelessly.
But with the G9X, they do all that, come with software that provides an app for both lines of phones (Apple or Android,) for changing radio station presets, names for your 8+1 buddy list, etc instead of having to hook up to a pc. The G9x provides lots of voice command operations, and comes with both 3.5 mini jack in/outs, you can use earbuds instead of speakers, and comes with a wired mic and a boom. I changed to the wired... WOW! Way less wind noise! Definitely recommended.

I started with the G9 powerset, then bought a G9X cradle kit off Ebay.
I found a good deal from an online vender out of New York... $283, then spent $59 for a kit.
You might look around online for a deal... I got lucky. Now you might too, and find someone trying to move the G9 powerset they've had leftover since the G9X has come out.

I really have no idea what causes these crazy things to shut the intercoms off like that, but I suspect it's a bad digit in a line of software code somewhere.... and I think it's a bug that's plagued Cardo users for a long time.

What is it they say? Patience is a virtue... (but sometimes ya gotta draw the line, too!) lol
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2" setback risers, Phil's wedges/rear rack,K Gel-seat, Rostra CC, AST tourpegs, techspec, 2"droppegs, 4"droppass pegs, Fuzeblock,  7"Garmin, fenda ext, LED tag plate, Ip5S Ram mt, TMeister, Mirror LED t/s, Bestem TBox, CB HDUT w/s, TRex front/CC bag, Wolo Badboy, Tailbrights, Scala G9X, Scorpion EXO1200 Jag, PR4GT's55's, 55W Qz Dr