Questions on riding in Italy

[Sgt Mac]

Looking for information on registering and insuring my C14 in Italy, long term, not for vacation purposes.
What you pay for insurance, am I looking for trouble by running an aftermarket exhaust, things like that.
If anyone has any info, please share.

[Son of Pappy]

Orders to Vicenza?  Furbo should be along to help out.

[VirginiaJim]

Either him, Ugo, or MG..

[Conrad]

I'm sure that MG could make you a video that helps tremendously!     

How long you planing on being there Sarg?

[Sgt Mac]

Headed to Livorno just south of Pisa, 3-4 years.

[Conrad]

Nice!

[ugocon]

I understand that you want to ship your bike registered in USA to Italy and ask for an Italian registration.
It's possible, but I don't know if it will be an easy job or worth it: consider you're coming from outside EU.
I need to do some research on it.
Anyway, the insurance for public-liability I pay yearly is around 500 euro for a covered risk of causing damages up to 5 Million Euro to people or 1 Million Euro to things.
This price DOES NOT include fir and theft: the price depends on how old is the bike but could be an additional 400/500 euro

Watch out: the price for public-liability is related to Rome, the city where I'm resident!
If you'll be resident in Leghorn, consider to divide it by 2 almost, much cheaper, small town, less accidents, less risks for the insurance company

For the aftermarket exhaust consider that the only one approved is the LeoVince, but it's a matter of luck if you meet the police while mounting something else. If it's not too loud you could make it! 

[Sgt Mac]

Thanks. I was pretty sure I'd have to go back to the stock exhaust, at least until I got the feel for things. I'll be over on military orders, so I have no choice but to register it, as it'll be my only mode of transportation in all but the most extreme of circumstances. Insurance is going to suck, I have one quote so far and it's more than triple my current rate so I'll be shopping around.

I cannot wait to get there.

[2fast]

Don't no anything about the insurance stuff. I did have the opportunity to ride a lot in Italy and numerous other countries near by last summer. The Dolomites and Alps were the most fun I have ever had on a bike. I came you really love cranking through the switchbacks. There is a GTR club in Europe which has rallies scattered around. As an honorary member, I highly recommend connecting with them to meet some of the riders. Have fun!!

[Sgt Mac]

2fast, thanks, I'll look in to the GTR club.

Any restrictions on tires and tire makes/models?

[ugocon]

Once you're registered you'll have a paper stating that your bike is approved, with the approved size for tires. You must mount that size only, no matter which brand.
For the registration I think you need  the support of the manufacturer (Kawasaki) stating that the american model is compliant to EU regulations.
This shouldn't be a big problem because the ZG is sold here and there. My only concern is about environment rules that should be stricter in the EU, but this needs to be verified.
I suggest  to contact Kawasaki in order to know what are the procedures requested and the possible issues: I believe they already did something similar in the past in Italy!
 

[Sgt Mac]

I will do that, thanks!

[2fast]

Another thought. Some countries/cities in Europe are rampant with speed cameras. WAY more big brother going on. They will mail you a ticket and you must pay it. Consider a GPS with a data base alert system for camera locations. Or, strictly obey the speed limits. 

[Sgt Mac]

Another thought. Some countries/cities in Europe are rampant with speed cameras. WAY more big brother going on. They will mail you a ticket and you must pay it. Consider a GPS with a data base alert system for camera locations. Or, strictly obey the speed limits. 

Many, many years ago, I was stationed in Germany. I had an allotment that went to a separate account so I could pay my speeding tickets. I figured at the very least, when I PCS'd back stateside, I could empty the account and have a little extra cash. That didn't happen, I used.....every penny of it.

[Furbo]

SGT Mac,

Benvenuti in Italia!!  Lived 3 yrs in Livorno/Darby. Great place, lotsa good riding in the Colli Pisani and the Appenines.

1. Make sure you have a motorcycle endorsement on your stateside license!!! And - if you have an MSF card less than a year, you may be able to avoid taking the BRC when you arrive.

2. Go down to AAA and get an International license. So - if you get stupid on some road and the cops take your license - surrender that one...

You'll get a military registration for your bike, it has a plate that looks just like an Italian plate. You can insure with Geico or USAA - not cheap, but gotta be done. Since you're an American - there are no real restrictions on exhaust, etc - BUT -  if you have a loud exhaust, you're going to get hassled. If the system 'looks' stock and isn't too loud, you may be Ok.

You're allowed only 3 vehicles as a military guy in Italy period. One is 'tax free', and you get a gasoline ration with it of no more than 400 liters/mo, but normally 300. Depends on engine size - Conc 14 should net you 300.  The other two vehicles are taxed with a road tax of around E 300 annually depending again on the size of the engine. I pay E. 280 for a Fiat Barchetta and E. 84 for a Honda NX650.

Speed cameras aren't too bad in Tuscany. Hit me up on AKO if you want to know anything else about riding there or the base.

[Sgt Mac]

1. Make sure you have a motorcycle endorsement on your stateside license!!! And - if you have an MSF card less than a year, you may be able to avoid taking the BRC when you arrive.

Got it and got it

2. Go down to AAA and get an International license. So - if you get stupid on some road and the cops take your license - surrender that one... 

Will do

You'll get a military registration for your bike, it has a plate that looks just like an Italian plate. You can insure with Geico or USAA - not cheap, but gotta be done. Since you're an American - there are no real restrictions on exhaust, etc - BUT -  if you have a loud exhaust, you're going to get hassled. If the system 'looks' stock and isn't too loud, you may be Ok. 

Got a quote from USAA for 1800 a year, still trying to get in contact with the Geico Overseas office for a quote. As for exhaust, I've got a CS1 on it now, probably just throw the stock can back on it.

You're allowed only 3 vehicles as a military guy in Italy period. One is 'tax free', and you get a gasoline ration with it of no more than 400 liters/mo, but normally 300. Depends on engine size - Conc 14 should net you 300.  The other two vehicles are taxed with a road tax of around E 300 annually depending again on the size of the engine. I pay E. 280 for a Fiat Barchetta and E. 84 for a Honda NX650.

I'll be taking the C14 and a '12 Kia Optima, bought prior to getting the assignment, one of those 'had I know situations'.

Speed cameras aren't too bad in Tuscany. Hit me up on AKO if you want to know anything else about riding there or the base.

My goal is to ease up a bit and act my age. Thanks for the info, can't wait to get there.