Failed Fly_ectomy

[ZG]

Hmmm, you got sold a bill of goods then.  Those bikes don't have traction control and linked brakes.  How long did it take to find out it didn't have those options? 

I think he mean't he "didn't" want those features, thus why he bought an 09...
 
Have another drink Sparky! 

[marku8a]

JIS=Japanese Industrial Standard

http://www.ikaswebshop.com/hojisscset4d.html

The inside radius profile of the slots are more square cut than a Phillips. Folks here have used both successfully..and unsuccessfully. The main trick is to heat an old screw driver with a torch then holding it against the screw to soften the threadlocker before trying to loosen the screw.

I removed mine with the JIS screw driver. I have to admit I was kind of worried given all the problem testimonials and you have to remove the outboard flys with the driver at an angle. I used a moderate amount of down force and no heat. Much to my delight they came out with no problem.

Mark

[VirginiaJim]

I think he mean't he "didn't" want those features, thus why he bought an 09...
 
Have another drink Sparky! 

Oh, I knew exactly what he was talking about...

[ZG]

Oh, I knew exactly what he was talking about...

But of course you did...     
 
 

[VirginiaJim]

 

[Smokeyzx]

Took mine out last weekend and stripped the last screw. I drilled out the screw head.

I will say that the difference is huge without them and that I would do it again without hesitation.

[Kiwi Graham]

Took mine out last weekend and stripped the last screw. I drilled out the screw head.

I will say that the difference is huge without them and that I would do it again without hesitation.

Have you done anything else to it or 'just' removed the flies?

What difference have you noticed?

[Smokeyzx]

Area P full system, PCV, BMC air filter, Fuel Moto's map, plugged tube to air box, and removed flies.

The biggest difference is from idle to 6k rpm in 1st to 5th gear.
- I can get going at idle making it more drivable. It's great in parking lots, I used to have to feather the clutch.
- It pulls way harder from idle to 6k. It pulls hard enough that I'm riding in one gear higher than normal and it still goes faster.
- It is as smooth it can get. Not that the bike ran rough or anything but it is noticeably smoother than what it was.

OD is still a dog, kind of seems worse but that might be because the other gears are so much better. I'm OK with this because that is what OD is for.

6k to red line is better but I haven't had chance to crack it yet. I've rolled on it and it rev'd as fast as I twisted the throttle.

I know everything contributes but I have to think that the increase from idle to 6k is from removing the flies and the map.

[marku8a]

Area P full system, PCV, BMC air filter, Fuel Moto's map, plugged tube to air box, and removed flies.

I just made these mods except went with the K&N air filter. I haven't had a chance to ride it yet. I was just about to install all the plastics when my Top Block tip over protectors arrived.

I am really anxious to experience the performance difference. Thanks for sharing your observations.

Mark

[Smokeyzx]

Be sure to let us know what you think.

[OregonLAN]

If you lived in Naple Fl. the heat of the 09 would not be that much fun, I was going to get a ST1300 till I learned about their heat Issues  SATAN'S CHARIOT as one owner called it . I really don't have any back roads to have fun on , there was nothing here 30's ago it's all new and flat and square, with greasy hot roads that get rained on at any time, Tropical.

And If I lived in Naple FL, I would probably have 75K miles on it.  I've owned it for ~2 seasons now; it has just over 5K total miles. Haha, yeah, when it's not raining here in the NW, it's cold and cloudy. I enjoy the leg heaters on my 2009.

[Patrick1]

Well back to my original message....the HEAT and the JIS bits were and will be the right tools for the job!
Fly's are on the wall and the ROSTRA cruise works great on my first test ride, except we had wind gusts
to 38 mph from the north so a U-turn back to home cut the test ride short.

For Pappy, I plan to be camping this summer at Colonial Creek Campground....not far from your place.
Did alot of opening days at Blue Lake and Fish Lake in the late 70s and 80s....just south of you.

[Son of Pappy]

Blue Lake is just 'round the bend, Wannacut has some great trout just waiting to be caught   Although I don't live there yet, I have a motorhome all setup and the boat is ready to launch.  Road aint Connie ready yet, but the Jetta has no problems.  Drop me a line when you're gonna be around, may go soak a line
Oh, congrats on the flyectomy, worth the effort?  Sure was for me over 49000 miles ago, yes, I like riding in the rain

[wildnphx]

JIS=Japanese Industrial Standard

http://www.ikaswebshop.com/hojisscset4d.html

The inside radius profile of the slots are more square cut than a Phillips. Folks here have used both successfully..and unsuccessfully. The main trick is to heat an old screw driver with a torch then holding it against the screw to soften the threadlocker before trying to loosen the screw.

 

That is exactly what I did with an old screw driver and no problems...  without the heat the screws were not moving.  I got that screw driver red hot and then just held it for a min or so on the head of the screw then they all came out very easy.  I do have a set of Flyless Throttle Bodies laying on the bench if you are interested....  Cause I replaced mine with the ZX14 throttle bodies.

[curly]

Don't worry, I think there have been more failures than complete successes. Most people don't air there lack of mechanical prowess on an open forum. Four of mine came out fine, four stripped out. I drilled the heads off and removed the flys.

Then my ocd kicked in and I worried about the screw shafts eventually coming free and dropping into the intake. So, I drilled out the shafts too (nasty, ugly job) but the results were worth it. Much better low end grunt. That was 10,000 fun miles ago.