Electrical Relay headache

[Snype]

I'm installing a semi-permanent power drop for my Valentine 1.  I pulled a hot wire off of the battery to a relay, which will go to a fuse block to the V1.

The relay has 5 wires: Power, Ground, Power out, switch, always hot.  Always Hot will not be used.  Power, ground and out are self explanatory.  The Switch is where I am stumped.  I have been looking for a wire, such as the license plate light, to tap but I can't locate one.  Even more, all of these wires are like 40 gauge; a tap will most likely just sever it. 

I need to tap something that is hot only when the key is on.  I turn to the ZGGTR sages for some advice before I kill my bike through stupidity.

Snype

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I think the common term for switch, on this forum anyway, is trigger. That is you want to tap into a wire that when you turn on the bike will trigger the relay to turn on and then supply power to the fuse block and thus anything attached to the block such as your V1. Since most relays current requirements are really low for the trigger coil, I suggest using the Accessory circuit on the C14. If the fuse block will be on the right front of the bike then you can go to the Accessory socket wiring and tie in there, on the left front there is a tennisgolf ball sized black boot in that area that has two accessory circuit leads (one positive the other negative unattached to anything) available. The rear also has accessory leads available in a rubber boot. The front and rear leads are Positive wire is Black (trigger wire) with female terminal, negative is Black with yellow stripe (fairly consistent color for negative ground through out the bike) with male terminal. The power socket in the dash has a brown wire for positive and a black with yellow stripe for negative on the socket side of the connectors and then on the other side of the connectors the colors revert to the same as the previously name leads where Black is the positive and black with yellow stripe is negative.

[maxtog]

I need to tap something that is hot only when the key is on.  I turn to the ZGGTR sages for some advice before I kill my bike through stupidity.

There is an ignition-driven accessory line in the front and rear of the bike that can be used.
Example:  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=16994

[Snype]

I'll dig for that accessory line tomorrow.  That will be much easier than the plan I had

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[Snype]

OMG!!!!!  I cannot believe that they came up with something so useful!  In a crappy place, but it's there!  Does anyone know the amperage on the circuit?  Can I use this for an auxiliary fuse box?  Will it take a lighting rig?

Thank you so much for letting me know before I chewed up my wires. 

One thing I did not know was that there are tiny fragile plastic tabs that hold things together.  Of course I broke all of them and will need a new glove box panel sometime soon. 

Valentine 1 is up and running now.  Now I need to send it  back to factory to get the new software and I am ticket free!!

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OMG!!!!!  I cannot believe that they came up with something so useful!  In a crappy place, but it's there!

Yep, aren't you glad you asked?

Does anyone know the amperage on the circuit?

5A on 2nd gen.  I believe it is tied to the same circuit as the outlet.  People report being able to change the fuse to a 10A safely (which is what it was on the 1 gen)

Can I use this for an auxiliary fuse box?  Will it take a lighting rig?

If you want tiny loads, yes.

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  Can I use this for an auxiliary fuse box?  Will it take a lighting rig?
Snype

Like max' said only tiny loads, so for a fuse box main power feed ? answer NO. Light usage only, primarily trigger circuit for relays that have a main power feed from the battery. Although having said that, I use the AUX power port for my V1 since I haven't hard wired it in yet. Lighting rig?..maybe a couple of low power LEDs...never plug in a tire inflator in the socket unless you have the 10 amp fuse in place, but some will even blow a 10 amp fuse.

Also, (and you probably already know this) but there is a way to punch in your model or serial number on the V1 website and it will tell you if you already have certain features that just need to be turned on by a special technique and you may not need to send it back at all for an upgrade.