Time for new headlight bulbs

[smokin]

Tried LED's,tried HID,the headlamp reflectors are not designed for either of these bulb systems.Have gone back to Philips X-tremes H4 +130 Kelvin Rating Up to 3700K ,give the best light spread IMHO. 4300k is the ideal light temp according to the experts.{X being an unknown quantity,and spurt being a drip under pressure}.

[VirginiaJim]

What does the +130 mean?

[smokin]

Quote from web site regarding what +130 means:Choose Philips X-treme Vision +130 if you're looking for the best maximum performance headlight globe on the market. The latest generation of the popular Philips X-treme Vision range offers up to 130% more light on the road in comparison to a standard globe so you'll be able to see much more of the road ahead.

If you decide to upgrade your headlight globes to Philips X-treme Vision +130 you will also benefit from a longer light beam, up to 45 metres longer to be precise, and this in turn increases your reaction time. In addition, the light produced by these headlight globes is up to 20% whiter than standard. Both factors lend themselves towards providing a safer and much more comfortable driving experience at night.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin

[Conrad]

What does the +130 mean?

They produce 130% more light than a bulb that produces 130% less.

[maxtog]

Marketing drivel.  130% more light is impossible.  Even 130% AS MUCH light (which means 30% more) is an exaggeration.  My estimation was more like 15% more.  But yeah, that is what they would have you believe.  They are nice, quality bulbs, though.  A little brighter than stock, nice tint, good beam, quality construction.

P.S.  If you do believe it, then I have some +130 gasoline additive I can sell you for just $9.99 a bottle.  And if you call in the next 10 minutes, I will include some excellent blinker fluid for just an additional shipping and handling charge....

[Deziner]

Website?

[VirginiaJim]

They produce 130% more light than a bulb that produces 130% less.

I'm easily confused and I'm thinking that math hurts my brane.

[smokin]

Regardless of the advertising propaganda and what you think maxtog they are a outstanding halogen H4 bulb,.They will perform better than your current HID setup,or the standard oem H4 bulb. 

[maxtog]

Regardless of the advertising propaganda and what you think maxtog they are a outstanding halogen H4 bulb,

Quote from my post:
"They are nice, quality bulbs[...]nice tint, good beam, quality construction."

So why is it in spite of what I think?  Sounds like you might be making an argument where there is none?  Remember, I ran those exact Philips bulbs for years and highly recommend them.  But the "+130" thing is pure hogwash.

They will perform better than your current HID setup,or the standard oem H4 bulb.

Better than a typical/stock/OEM H4 bulb?  Absolutely.  Better than HID- that depends on what criteria.  An aftermarket HID setup produces a LOT more light than either bulb.  And the color temperature is also better (at least mine is).  They have also lasted as long, so far.  The beam- not as good.  The scatter control/glare- much worse.

Overall?  I would say the aftermarket HID is better from MY perspective and much worse from everyone else's (the drivers having to look at them); nowhere near as nice as real HID (which requires projector lenses).

[AZ-ZG]

Aww,   

Devolved into a HID argument?     
Pull yer head out!   

FWIW, no LEOs in my recent 2108 mile journey had a problem with the yellow, and I saw all sorts. 

Just because you have a "unique" lighting profile, never become complacent!   

Leaving a tourofhonor.com site in Erwin, TN (I lost my flag there but a new one has been ordered  )

Traveling about 3 car lengths behind a mini-van at approximately 25mph, maybe 30 at best.
Here comes some tiny import sedan, trundling it's way down a driveway, on a 2 way street, braking for the van, but then starts "the slow roll of the incognizant."   

I see all this unfolding, slow down in plenty of time, and smile triumphantly in my helmet as as I give her a full blast of the Nautilus Ear Cannon horn and, no ****, see her literally jump and drop her ****!   

Good times   

[freebird6]

I personally detest those.  Mostly because they were designed to only work with high-beams (which I find totally unacceptable).  Modulation of the low beam is better, but still very annoying.  Perhaps just one of the two headlights???  I tried one as an experiment and ripped it out (previous bike) after the few month experiment.  Annoying is just one aspect- the other is that some people freak out and slam on the brakes, thinking it is a cop, others do equally stupid things.  It also can only be used in the day.  I think it is more of a safety hazard than a safety feature.

I would offer some perspective on the other side but like the current state of our country and folks on both sides of the aisle, it would fall on deaf ears so i will just say I use em...when mine had problem with the MOSFET I felt naked without em.  Not wanting to be the recipient of an inflammed ire I have nothing else to offer.

[gPink]

Aisle? .... Who says we've got to have an aisle? Maybe everyone can't afford an aisle. That's not being very inclusive. In fact having an aisle is divisive and offensive. Boycott the aisle!

[Bergmen]

I'm going to take a good hard look at these:

http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/3800-Lumen-H4-LED-Headlight-bulb-_p_83.html

47 reviews and everybody likes them.

Dan

[maxtog]

I'm going to take a good hard look at these:

http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/3800-Lumen-H4-LED-Headlight-bulb-_p_83.html

47 reviews and everybody likes them.

No photo of back side of bulb assembly.  I was going to assume it has no LED on the bottom, so it would not fill the entire H2 reflector on high beam (a fault of most HID kits too)....  but the video shows LED's on BOTH SIDES (and this is the first model I have seen to show that).  But the video also clearly shows low-beam cutoff shields on both sides.... and that is very concerning.... an H4 bulb should not project light down on low-beam, so I am not sure why it would have a shield on the bottom.  WARNING:  Throwing light down in a C14's reflector on low beam WILL blind oncoming traffic.  Only the top part of the reflector should be used on low beam.

Also has a fan, which can fail- but the video shows that it really is waterproof- dunking not just the LED part, but the fan in the water too!   

At $130, this seems interesting, but I have serious questions about the pattern. And 5500K is still too blue to look OEM/serious/"proper" (around 4300K is stock car HID color).

[AZ-ZG]

Death to the aisles!!   

[RBX QB]

No photo of back side of bulb assembly.  ...

There are photos of both sides (last 2 images)... They're just not very clear (you can tell the shields point different directions, which matches the video). I did find a couple images of those PIAA bulbs that imply double-sided LEDs like this one... but they're so darned pricey.

Just found this image... http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/d/strg/ctrl/8/221c26f55834e7815aab1307955421b7b26c381c.89.1.8.2.jpg
You can see the orientation within a reflector... and the low beam LEDs and their shields make more sense to me. I'd imagine the Cyclops bulbs goes in the same as the PIAA in the picture.

Like you (I think), I'll believe the sales pitch when someone gives us real world experience. At $65 a bulb... it'd almost be worth it to buy just 1 to try it out. If only they had color temp options. 6000K is cooler than I'd like.

[MAN OF BLUES]

i've been seeing the trend with my ADV friends, and so far, the Cyclops have been ruling the roost with them, and having ridden with them, can say when they are behind me, i have to shield my eyes...

http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/led-headlight-bulbs.html

I may try some out, when i earn some money...again...someday.

[maxtog]

There are photos of both sides (last 2 images)... They're just not very clear (you can tell the shields point different directions, which matches the video).

Good catch, I didn't notice the shield change of direction.

I did find a couple images of those PIAA bulbs that imply double-sided LEDs like this one... but they're so darned pricey.  Just found this image... http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/d/strg/ctrl/8/221c26f55834e7815aab1307955421b7b26c381c.89.1.8.2.jpg
You can see the orientation within a reflector... and the low beam LEDs and their shields make more sense to me. I'd imagine the Cyclops bulbs goes in the same as the PIAA in the picture.

Ah, you are REALLY on the money with that!  I just checked my detailed photos of my bulbs and, sure enough, of the three tabs, one of the tabs must be pointing up.  And in the case of this cyclops bulb, that would certainly mean the bulb orientation is not what probably any of us expected- the led's point left/right, NOT up/down!  To me, this seemed completely crazy at first and now it makes perfect sense..... and the shields are guaranteeing the low beams are only throwing light UP and never down.   So..... I am far more intrigued by the bulbs now.

Like you (I think), I'll believe the sales pitch when someone gives us real world experience.

It is like me.  I am sick of marketing stuff and am I even skeptical of "testimonials"

At $65 a bulb... it'd almost be worth it to buy just 1 to try it out. If only they had color temp options. 6000K is cooler than I'd like.

They are claiming 5500K, which is a little better than 6000K, but I would rather have 4500K or below.  The reason most people WANT high temperatures is the "look at me" factor.... which is exactly why I want proper color.

[maxtog]

i've been seeing the trend with my ADV friends, and so far, the Cyclops have been ruling the roost with them, and having ridden with them, can say when they are behind me, i have to shield my eyes...[...]I may try some out, when i earn some money...again...someday.

Is that good or bad?

If you have to shield your eyes and they are using low-beams (like they should be), then it means there is far too much glare.

[freebird6]

I'm going to take a good hard look at these:

http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/3800-Lumen-H4-LED-Headlight-bulb-_p_83.html

47 reviews and everybody likes them.

Dan

I have been using those for 2 riding seasons after finding them on ADV. With a lot of night riding I have not had the problem with folks flashing their lights . There is a good solid cut off line so I was able to adjust them in the barn on the back wall when I first installed them. I do not use the color to say "hey look at me" ....I bought them because I wanted more light down the road when it is dark . They have fulfilled that need without causing the problems I get when those cars with projector beams are coming over the hill blinding me. I have asked several friends I have passed on the road how the lights looked to them and if they threw a lot of beam in their eyes. No one has a complaint and many allude to the cars with HIDs or projectors that we encounter locally. I like em. ...the company is easy to work with and takes care to listen to folks who have constructive criticism and then respond on the thread in ADV. I am heading down to Southeast Ohio Friday, as the days get shorter I am more than happy to have these on board over the PIAA, Hella, and Silverstars I have run in the past. https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/103684390055483370361/6338117336301147202?icm=false