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4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« on: May 14, 2013, 06:42:38 AM »
I'm rebuilding and upgrading my dad's bike ('87 C10).  So, last night I put the brackets and 4-piston calipers on and bled the lines.  I go to hook up the speedo cable, an NO WAY will it line up to connect at the axle.  Did I do something wrong?  Should I spin (can I?) the sender more downward?  Am I stuck with either using the GPS or buying a digital speedo?

If buying a digital one is the only option, does anyone have a frugal but good recommendation?  Send me a link if you do.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 09:16:41 AM »
You "should" be able to turn the housing some if that will help the cable reach just be sure that you turn it enough to get the past where the tab on the speedo would be directly inline with the tab on the fork as otherwise it can crack the speedo housing... You can also get a longer cable too...
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 09:22:52 AM »
Thanks T Cro!

I'll do the rotate thing tonight, maybe that will solve it.

Longer cable.  I know the days of walking into a shop and comparing cables are gone.  Any suggestion on how I would find a "longer" cable which might help in keeping the arc smooth at the wheel?  It would probably need no more than 2" if even that.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 09:26:47 AM »
Thanks T Cro!

I'll do the rotate thing tonight, maybe that will solve it.

Longer cable.  I know the days of walking into a shop and comparing cables are gone.  Any suggestion on how I would find a "longer" cable which might help in keeping the arc smooth at the wheel?  It would probably need no more than 2" if even that.

Walk in and ask...... Is exactly how I would still do it today! If I'm not mistaken the ZRX speedo cable is about an inch longer.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 09:27:35 AM »
Talk to Murph about a longer cable if need be....
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 10:05:06 AM »
Will do.  Hopefully rotating will work and I can just get a longer cable if needed.  Trying to get it together to take it to Myrtle Beach for Memorial Day to show mom the new look of dad's bike.  She lives in MB now.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 12:40:48 PM »
I think I broke the little  knob on my 86, I could rotate  it anywhere. Never had any trouble with it.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 12:45:40 PM »
I have an old one with both tabs (knob) broken off.  I guess they are not really necessary, they are just used to help you locate it properly when putting the wheel back on?  It seems that when everything is tightened down it wouldn't move because it is sandwiched in?
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2013, 08:43:01 PM »
Even though your brackets are different to mine I think you can rotate the speedo drive housing down (clockwise), I have been running like this for years and the cable is stock. See attached picture.

I think your discs are on the wrong sides.

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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 06:06:48 AM »
I think you are right about the disks - nice catch.  I like the bracket you have on yours better than mine.  Seems to be more simplistic looking.  Is mine one of yours?  Early model?  I compared the pics, it looks like the calipers sit in the same spot so hopefully the stock cable will work.

I cleaned the carbs last night and started re-assembly.  Got to find the box SISF.  Maybe I can get to the front wheel tonight also.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 07:50:09 AM »
Stock cable will work. Did on my 89 with the same ZRXMopar brackets as you have.
You may need to remove the axle and wheel then reposition the speedo drive before refitting the wheel & axle.
I now have Russells brackets on mine and they are SOOOOoooo much prettier.  8)
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 07:58:45 AM »
Switched the disks around last night (thanks Russell) and put an old speedo unit on that has the tabs broken off.  Just orderd a new cable because the nut on the wheel end popped off (it was a pretty old cable).  Once I get that (maybe Monday) i'll crunch it all down.

It did fit before the end popped off, I just wont route it through the chrome giude (that was a little tight), but instead just use a heavy cable-tie on the fairing frame so it won't tangle with anything and is a little more straighter run to the gauges.  Thanks guys.

Also got the carbs ready to do the fuel height check.  Still trying to finish by next weekend, getting tight, still have to paint the main fairing panel (Friday nite).
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 01:05:57 PM »
Can anyone tell what the thread pitch is on the banjo bolt at the master cyclinder is?  1.0 or 1.25?  I have brand new dual lines but no dual-port bolt to set it up.
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 05:25:23 PM »
Can anyone tell what the thread pitch is on the banjo bolt at the master cyclinder is?  1.0 or 1.25?  I have brand new dual lines but no dual-port bolt to set it up.

1.25 pitch
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Re: 4-piston calipers and no speedo now?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 06:20:01 AM »
Thanks T Cro, I gambled yesterday afternoon and that is what I orderd from eBay ($8.95 shipped).  I also ordered a new speedo cable only to find out that the parts bike I have must have just had a new one put on it before it became a parts bike.  So the front end is all done except for the brake lines.  I got smoke colored ones coming for the all black bike.  I might finish this by next weekend - we'll see.
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