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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: LSGiant on July 25, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
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I am pretty sure my fuel filter needs to be cleaned. The link in Wiki no longer has the photos. I know Davo has passed away. Did anyone save the photos or have instructions saved some where else.
Davo's fuel pump repair--redux...
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Well, I guess it was inevitable that this would happen. Hopefully someone has these pics.
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At what milage should the fuel filter need to be cleaned?
Thanks
Alan
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I don't believe that replacing the fuel pump (there is no 'service' for the filter) is in the scheduled maintenance. It's entirely up to you and the possibly trashy fuel you use in the bike. Davo did his fairly early in the bike's lifetime. Others have found trash when they took the pump apart. I've got nearly 50k on mine and haven't given it a thought. If it starts running rough or exhibiting strange symptoms, I might give it go.
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try this:
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7625.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7625.0)
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Thanks for the link! :goodpost:
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Thanks for the link.
I am almost a hundred percent sure this is my problem. I have fuel cell that I use periodically that I am sure does not help. I also have over 30,000 miles on my bike. I travel a lot so I do not have the luxury of buying fuel at the same place. I have surging when I do full throttle acceleration.
I called the dealer since it is under warranty. They would not just get me the pump. I totally understand that. The bad part is that they would have to diagnose the pump, then get approval from kawasaki then order the pump and reinstall. He estimated 4-6 working days. I am sure it would be 2 weeks. It is prime riding season so I am not going to give up the bike for that long. I had the tank off once and fuel pump out before and it is not to big of job. I should be able to turn it around in 2 - 3 hours.
The thing is Kawasaki will never fix this if we turn them in under warranty.
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....The thing is Kawasaki will never fix this if we DON'T turn them in under warranty.
fix'd that fer ya..... ;)
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fix'd that fer ya..... ;)
Thanks
Someday my fingers will type fast enough to keep up with my brain or my brain will slow down enough :)
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I just opened my fuel pump to take a look at the filter 'cause I had it out of the tank anyway (adding a fuel cell to the bike); at 85K miles the filter was really pretty clean, easy to see through the mesh and not showing any resistance to fuel passage as far as I could tell. I did push some fuel through it backwards and blow it out with compressed air and while a coating of some really black stuff did show up, there was no debris or grit of any kind at all.
Most auto / motorcycle mfgs. use this same type of mesh 'sock' as a fuel filter and it does not seem to be any kind of problem or require maintenance. I think the only time the filters do clog is when contaminants have been put in with the fuel at some point. Put another way, I do not think it is really a maintenance issue, more like a repair due to abnormally contaminate fuel in the first place. As I remember Davo Jones had to clean his after a very specific tank of fuel that was full of crud, not just the accumulation of anything normally found in gasoline.
Brian
I don't believe that replacing the fuel pump (there is no 'service' for the filter) is in the scheduled maintenance. It's entirely up to you and the possibly trashy fuel you use in the bike. Davo did his fairly early in the bike's lifetime. Others have found trash when they took the pump apart. I've got nearly 50k on mine and haven't given it a thought. If it starts running rough or exhibiting strange symptoms, I might give it go.
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I do agree with Brian that it really would not need to be done unless you start to have issues. It certainly is not going to leave you on the side of the road. I did take mine apart today and it was really filthy. As I posted before I do not have much control over where I buy fuel and I do use a fuel cell periodically so this is maybe my fault also. He is correct that this is similar to what is used on the automotive industry but I have had those fuel pumps off and the size of those socks is substantially larger. The other difference is automotive tanks are at least twice as large so the tank is opened half as often leading to less contamination.
I will let you know if this resolved the issue.
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Here are 2 of Davo's original pics.
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/Freddy1333/1400gtrfp23.jpg)
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/Freddy1333/1400GTRfuelpump-1.jpg)